Goodbye

I thought this was a nice little website to share my ancestry (Joseph Stalin is my 1st cousin 4x removed) but I have already been harassed and attacked by quite a few users on here as a result, somehow they believe it's simply "disagreeing", but it's far from that. To add insult to injury, you cannot block other users on here and I also have been censored for simply sharing my personal Facebook page URL. I have addressed every question from members of this site, some I wouldn't even consider to be questions, and they only wish to spread lies about me and insult me while claiming I'm the one lying? That I'm the one being disrespectful? That I'm the one "spreading bullshit"? Somehow I'm the bad person? I don't have to take this nonsense so I'm leaving this website for good. I have been nothing but respectful to these members.

No, we seriously just disagree with you, and you have yet to address our concerns with your story. Saying so is not harassing or insulting you, if you believe it is then you have some serious ego issues to deal with.

And repeatedly advertising your URL is in violation of forum rules. Rules you refuse to abide by, so, good riddance I guess?

You have to learn to be flexible just like Comrade Stalin was. It's imperative if you want to be a good politician.

It's ok if not everyone believes you. You've made your claim to being his cousin clear. Whether or not everyone will believe you shouldn't matter all that much to you. What you believe is what matters most in the end. You also have to learn to follow the rules here. It's not that hard, and everyone can visit your Facebook page through your profile link.

You also have to learn to get used to people critiquing you and even outright attacking you for no reason at times. Learn to stay calm, take a hit, and ignore people when you feel they don't merit a response.

Be political and you'll have a much easier time on here, not to mention have more fun.

Agreed. Half asleep so forgive if phrased badly but.... You are being too thin skinned.

Toughen up? Grow and Learn. Become Stronger.

Many on this site are used to Lies, Exaggerations and Ridicule regarding Communism and it's History, Influential Figures etc so feel a need to Verify Everything Carefully which I agree with.

Just look at Hearsts Media Empires Lies re the so called "Holodomor".

We cannot afford to accept things on Faith.

Even if we do not see eye to eye though that is no need to leave or feel dispirited.
This Site has many Interesting and Varied People with differing opinions, Political Stances and Outlooks.

Not to mention SE's value as an Information Repository.

Discourse, Disagreement and even Disapproval should not need be a hard blow. Swing with the momentum and adapt.

I empathize with the guy. Doesn't matter if he's Stalin's or Trotsky's grandchild or whatever. The way people who have a different opinion are treated here is the reason why I don't take much part in this forum either.
I've been around for far too long not to discern this already.

omnimercurial wrote:

... Lies re the so called "Holodomor".

So, if the great famine was a fabrication, you all live in denial. Reading nothing but praise for Stalin's and Hogxha's "genious" is just too much. Even the Greek gods were fallible. But not those two.

Unfortunately, there are not many reasonable people on this site. One stands out and I wish him all the best, Soviet78.

You want to talk about how people are treated? Try talking about any of this stuff with an American "Conservative", then come back and try to complain about how people are treated around here or on other Leftist forums.

If you can't handle people questioning you, or calling you out, then you have no business espousing your beliefs or thinking you can be some sort of political leader.

I was originally worried when I read this that people were treating Akecheta unfairly. I've read through the relevant posts, and she just really needs to grow a thicker skin, especially if she wants to have any future in politics.

Yes, some people are rude, some people are trolls, but that is how people are. If you think you can be a Radical Leftist without dealing with this type of stuff, you're just plain wrong.

SciHobo wrote:

You want to talk about how people are treated? Try talking about any of this stuff with an American "Conservative", then come back and try to complain about how people are treated around here or on other Leftist forums.

This is a false dichotomy. If one is allowed to be moral only with respect to other people, then the standards are bound to get lower and lower. And since you actually defend such a position, it is no wonder people here are the way they are.
OVer & out.

EdvardK wrote:

So, if the great famine was a fabrication, you all live in denial.

No one is claiming there was no famine. "Holodomor" refers to the narrative that Stalin intentionally created the famine to carry out genocide against the Ukrainian nation.

EdvardK wrote:

This is a false dichotomy. If one is allowed to be moral only with respect to other people, then the standards are bound to get lower and lower. And since you actually defend such a position, it is no wonder people here are the way they are.
OVer & out.

It is not a false dichotomy, it is reality in every location on the political spectrum. The moderators and administrators cannot and will not be so draconian as to correct people everytime they are slightly rude, or you perceive it as such. The standards stay the same, they don't change in either direction.. People aren't going to play by your rules and expecting them to is a mistake, regardless of where you are.

You can only control your own behavior, so if it suits you to be the bigger person, then by all means do it. Other people are going to behave badly at times, when things are egregious we will enforce, but a lot of this is people being so thin skinned as to think they aren't allowed to be criticized or questioned, and it's ridiculous. If you can't handle that, why even discuss your beliefs?

It boggles my mind that radical leftists can be so thin skinned about little stuff in a world that is often literally out to kill us...

SciHobo wrote:

It is not a false dichotomy, it is reality in every location on the political spectrum.

NO! You don't understand what a false dichotomy is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

Your claim about "ah, the other side is doing it bad so we might as well be just slightly less bad and it's ok". Or, in other words, "if they kill 100million, we will look really mild and peaceful if we kill only 99 million."
Your problem if you have no moral scruples. That's why you and your buddies (deleted list of names, next time you disparage specific individuals with no proof will result in a yellow card - SciHobo) are all alone here and the ideas of the real left will never come to fruition. Nobody in their right mind would side with you, the armchair communists. You believe that you're communist just because you say you are. Well, i'm not a nazi even if i would say or claim i was one. It's the deeds that define you. And you've done abso-f...ing-lutely nothing that would characterize any of you as even socialists, let alone communists.

EdvardK on Mon Feb 03, 2014 wrote:

Promote what you love rather than bash what you hate...

What you're doing now bashing other posters is a waste of only your time. I've been here long enough to know that this place is anything but intolerant of other people's opinions. I've seen many, many occasions whereby prejudiced and offensive posts attacking entire nations, ethnicities, and genders were allowed to slide.

The administrators and moderators permit people to get away with quite a lot of things that break the site rules before they start taking action.

If you have a specific complaint about being unfairly treated, you should at least link us to the thread instead of attacking people here in general.

Disagreeing with other posters' opinions on previous communist leaders is hardly a reason to get upset even if everyone here disagreed with you. Socialists look to the future more so than into the past. Differing opinions on previous events concerning communism should not be hindering the ability of socialists to work together for a brighter future.

If you look at the first page of Akecheta's intro you'll see how very welcoming the majority of posters were to her. She got into a debate with only one poster and abruptly decided that it was too much. She was going to leave sooner if not later regardless of the fact that most of the regulars here did not even bother questioning her on the authenticity of her backstory.

What she really wanted was to promote her Facebook page, which she could have easily done had she been more diplomatic and left the link on her profile page; yet she insisted on it being posted in the open thread and insisted that everyone believe her on her relations.

That's not the way to go about things. In her case it's excusable because she's still a kid in her teens, but you're an adult; and responsible adults would follow the words of wisdom quoted above you yourself used and believe in.

By the way, guys, she's been yellow carded and probably won't be back. If you really want to take this up with her, she included her Facebook link on her profile.

EdvardK wrote:

NO! You don't understand what a false dichotomy is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

Your claim about "ah, the other side is doing it bad so we might as well be just slightly less bad and it's ok". Or, in other words, "if they kill 100million, we will look really mild and peaceful if we kill only 99 million."
Your problem if you have no moral scruples. That's why you and your buddies are all alone here and the ideas of the real left will never come to fruition. Nobody in their right mind would side with you, the armchair communists. You believe that you're communist just because you say you are. Well, i'm not a nazi even if i would say or claim i was one. It's the deeds that define you. And you've done abso-f...ing-lutely nothing that would characterize any of you as even socialists, let alone communists.

I understand the false dichotomy. First and foremost, even if my words were taken as a dichotomy, the dichotomy must be false, which you have not proven by any means (ie. Saying you can either be pregnant or not pregnant is a true dichotomy). Saying it gets worse is not really a dichotomy.

I'm simply saying it gets a whole lot worse out there (which is really more of a strawman), you're the one claiming there is a dichotomy and it shows why your thinking is unrealistic. If I was committing said fallacy, I'd be saying that either we can treat you completely unfairly (like American conservatives) or ______. I am not saying that, I'm not even saying that we couldn't do better here... I'm saying that you can't expect everyone to agree with your or be 100% civil even here among leftists. By comparison, it is very tame here on the SPECTRUM of treatment (Versus the black and white thinking you're exhibiting).

I've been on these forums for more than a decade, and I can say that with a few exceptions, this is one of the better places I've come across and am proud to be a part of. We even let ardent capitalists post as long as they wanted...

I've reviewed the threads that Akecheta posted in, and frankly, she's clearly thin skinned and has unrealistic expectations of where her burden of proof regarding her lineage falls.

At the end of the day, we're all basically on the same side, the fact that we're so divided and often vehemently disagree is absolutely no surprise. I find it odd that people could genuinely think that about this place... Could it be better? Certainly. Could it be worse, oh hell yes, I've seen it.

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You have to learn to be flexible just like Comrade Stalin was. It's imperative if you want to be a good politician.

It's ok if not everyone believes you. You've made your claim to being his cousin clear. Whether or not everyone will believe you shouldn't matter all that much to you. What you believe is what matters most in the end. You also have to learn to follow the rules here. It's not that hard, and everyone can visit your Facebook page through your profile link.

You also have to learn to get used to people critiquing you and even outright attacking you for no reason at times. Learn to stay calm, take a hit, and ignore people when you feel they don't merit a response.

Be political and you'll have a much easier time on here, not to mention have more fun.

You are very much right. Thank you for the advice, I'm taking it to my advantage. I'll stay after all.

Welcome back!

As you see, Yeqon gives good advice.

Yup. Welcome back.

Thank you for all the posts on the Communist forums. Interesting reads.

Akecheta wrote:

You are very much right. Thank you for the advice, I'm taking it to my advantage. I'll stay after all.

I'm glad to have been of service. I've already read your "tips to anti-communists post"; it's a very nice comical spin to serious points. Keep it up and welcome back.

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No one is claiming there was no famine. "Holodomor" refers to the narrative that Stalin intentionally created the famine to carry out genocide against the Ukrainian nation.

Yes. It is as Ismail stated.
The Famine was a Terrible thing.
The "Holodomor" however is an Artifice of Lies constructed by the Hearst Media Empire.
The Myth/Lie of the Holodomor still lingers today and seems to grow each year. First it is 1,000,000 Deaths then 15,000,000 then 30,000,000 then 100,000,000 *sigh*.

I have found a birth record for Ketevan Geladze, and as I said her mother is Louisa Almeda Claflin. I also had a few people analyze the audio, and it turned out that it's fake. The outcome was a little bit disappointing, I enjoy correcting history when it's based on lies, and it would be pretty cool to be related to someone who pretty much invented audio, but nonetheless I was wrong regarding the recording, so I apologize.

An informative insight to those who believe in the “Holodomor” myth: http://www.stalinsociety.org/2015/10/03/fighting-the-holodomor-myth-archival-evidence-that-stalin-was-unaware-of-conditions-in-the-ukraine-and-tried-to-relieve-the-situation-when-he-was-informed/