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Tribute to Erich Honecker.

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 26 Oct 2006, 14:20
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Post 26 Oct 2006, 15:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSVcLrwzqcY

Courtesy of You Tube, music is by Laibach..sadly i don't know the name of the song.

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Post 26 Oct 2006, 15:59
A great leader of the DDR.I had read lots about him,imprisoned by the capitalism German government. By the way,are you from Germany?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 26 Oct 2006, 14:20
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Post 26 Oct 2006, 16:31
Oh, no I'm afraid not comrade..East Germany is merely one of the (sadly ex) east european socialist states I find interesting. I'm from Britain, nice video though isn't it..those soldiers seem so determined..as if they got up each day and thought to themselves "tomorrow could be world war three" hell, no doubt they were conditioned that way.

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Post 26 Oct 2006, 18:22
As much as I like seen images of Honecker and the East German army, I don't understand how the video is a 'tribute' to him. Honecker's agenda was focussed on the betterment of East German society, not about militaristic expansion and invasion of others.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 26 Oct 2006, 14:20
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Post 26 Oct 2006, 18:28
I agree, Comrade.

But i guess ya have to take the rough with the smooth lol


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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 11 Nov 2006, 18:34
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Post 19 Nov 2006, 16:22
Long live Honecker!
Long live the people!
Long live socalism!
Long live communism!
Long live china!
Long live the DPRK!
Long live Vietnam!
Long live Loas!
Long live cuba!
DOWN WITH CAPITALISM!
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Oct 2006, 21:52
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Post 19 Nov 2006, 20:14
But the background music has nazi lyrics. "Ein Führer... ein Volk... Rasse...". things like that.
Just wanted to give some Information...
Thats why I think it's not the best "tribute".
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Post 19 Nov 2006, 20:38
Ein Fuhrer: The Leader
Ein Volk: The People

These phrases are not Nazi idology, they're just the language of Germany.
Sure old people have died in their droves from the bitter cold of the warmest january on record, and they practically rot in their hospital beds and our prime minister is incapacitated in office..

But God damn it Britain is getting the job DONE.
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Post 19 Nov 2006, 23:03
Sadly Hitler managed to spoils those words when used together:
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 26 Oct 2006, 14:20
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Post 19 Nov 2006, 23:48
And of course, those who know Laibach know about how they just LOVE to parody totalitarianism ;p

Ian
Sure old people have died in their droves from the bitter cold of the warmest january on record, and they practically rot in their hospital beds and our prime minister is incapacitated in office..

But God damn it Britain is getting the job DONE.
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Post 20 Nov 2006, 14:37
yes Ian Moore I know what you mean.
But I'm German by the way and most of us when they hear "ein Volk"...+ "Führer" + "eine Rasse" (one race), they remember hitler and the nazis.
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Post 20 Nov 2006, 16:49
Perhaps the creator of the video was (albeit misguidedly) likening Erich to Hitler? you know how these liberals are ;p

Ian
Sure old people have died in their droves from the bitter cold of the warmest january on record, and they practically rot in their hospital beds and our prime minister is incapacitated in office..

But God damn it Britain is getting the job DONE.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 28 Nov 2006, 20:19
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Post 30 Nov 2006, 05:52
There is no quote of "fuehrer" in the song...

As for the patriotism, what is the problem? The GDR was very patriotic. Stalin even wanted the GDR flag to be the Schwarz-Weiss-Rot. Honecker nearly kicked the ass of German Communists from Ruhr that were flying French flags for betraying Germany. I guess they were Nazi too?


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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 11 Nov 2006, 18:34
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Post 30 Nov 2006, 15:03
Sieg Heil herr roberspierre
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Post 19 Dec 2006, 17:28
I think out of all the old socialist leaders, Honecker is the one that I feel gets treated the worst! What was he supposed to do, just let all the East Germans 'escape' to the 'prosperous' west? And when he was being mentioned in the same clique as Pinoche that was just too far. So I'm glad to see that in the heart of US capatilist video websites there is a tribute to Honecker, that has made my day!

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Post 19 Dec 2006, 20:05
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There is no quote of "fuehrer" in the song...


I'm pretty sure it says "ein starker Führer" at 1:11


But actually the video is well made
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 16 Dec 2005, 14:24
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Post 19 Dec 2006, 22:17
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The GDR was very patriotic.


They were very patriotic as they weren't recognised by many governments. In order to promote the DDR they pushed unbelievably hard to win at the Olympics which they did (often by giving many female atheletes testosterone to boost their performances: with very unfortunate side effects), and also promoted the history of Prussia as it was based in Eastern Germany. They did finally get recognition from West Germany, in 1989. A bit too late maybe?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 28 Nov 2006, 20:19
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Post 20 Dec 2006, 08:42
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I'm pretty sure it says "ein starker Führer" at 1:11

Starker wille.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Oct 2006, 21:52
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Post 20 Dec 2006, 16:36
Oh... wait...
Yes you are right!!!
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Post 21 Dec 2006, 16:16
Did you know? Honecker's nickname was 'Honni'. He was the butt of many jokes in the GDR. Perhaps because he wasn't such a glorious leader after all, eh?

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The leader of the GDR, Erich Honecker, wants to know what the people really think of him. So goes out among the people in disguise. He asks a man on the street: "Excuse me, but what do you think of Honecker?" The man leads him down a side street, makes sure that nobody hears him, and whispers into Erich's ear, "I support Honecker!"


Tee-hee


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Erich Honecker receives a gold watch for his birthday that he is very fond of. He even keeps it under his pillow when he goes to bed. One day, while at the office, Erich realizes that he is missing his watch. In a panic, he calls Erich Mielke (the head of the Stasi) and tells him that someone has stolen his watch. Later, he realizes he left it under his pillow, and being relieved, calls Mielke to tell him to cancel the investigation. Mielke responds "Too late, we've arrested three suspects and they've confessed everything!"
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