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Reflecting on Conflict in Syria

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Post 16 Jul 2013, 19:40
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The organized and conscious heroic people of Syria is maintaining their unity and national steadfastness in face of imperialist scheme of intervention through FSA and other mercenary groups in service of imperialism.

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Claims emerge in Yemen of Saudi recruitment to fight in Syria

http://www.janes.com/article/24611/clai ... gg.twitter

IHS Jane's Intelligence Weekly
15th July 2013

Key Points
A Yemeni tribal source reported a concerted Saudi Arabian effort to recruit and train Yemeni fighters for Syria.
This is in line with the Syrian conflict's resonance among Sunni Muslims worldwide and probable Gulf facilitation of some foreign fighters' travel to Syria.
IHS assesses that, if true, Saudi Arabia will try to avert the terrorism risk posed by returning Yemeni fighters by incorporating them into the Saudi Arabian Army.
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A Yemeni tribal source claimed in an interview published in Yemen's al-Jumhor newspaper on 13 July 2013 that Yemeni workers recently expelled from Saudi Arabia had been given a choice of deportation or payment to fight alongside Syrian rebels.

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Mercenaries, pure and simple.
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Post 20 Jul 2013, 05:08
I found it very interesting they were being paid to keep this going on and to fight. How many other groups are being paid? As the old saying goes: follow the money. It's definitely not the US alone. But aren't the US and Saudi Arabia friends?
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Post 22 Jul 2013, 21:48
This is awfully vague for the alleged hordes of mercenaries fighting SAA. Bashar, on the other hand, actually uses confirmed hordes of Hezbollah fighters who are repaying their debts to the former occupiers of Lebanon who made them what they are.
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Post 22 Jul 2013, 22:28
Hezbollah aren't repaying a debt. They are fighting in Syria because they make it their duty to fight terrorism wherever it rears its ugly head. Weather it's state terrorism in Israel or Al Qaeda in Syria they are there to save the day. They killed 500 terrorists in Syria in one day. Fighting Islamic maniacs is always to the benefit of humanity. Most of all it's in their interest and in the interest of the Lebanese people to fight and defend Lebanese borders from the swarm of Islamic ignorant low life scum. They are spreading like locusts threatening the very way of life that Syrians and Lebanese have become accustomed to. Lebanon must not become another Iraq, Libya, Syria or Afghanistan. Hezbollah are sacrificing the lives of their best of the best to make sure that will not happen. It is also in their interest to fight along their Shiite brothers in order to keep the alliance between Iran, Syria and Lebanon intact. Lebanon owes a lot to Hezbollah. They are the only ones that have guaranteed the security of Lebanon's southern border and now defend the northern border. They also maintain stability inside the country whenever somebody tries to start making noise. Heroes they are I tell you. Heroes!

Here's something I found cute. The crisis in Syria for dummies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n2aBYYigoA
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Post 23 Jul 2013, 19:33
Not only mercenaries paid by foreign princes. A recourse to the Press-gang.

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Post 25 Jul 2013, 19:22
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Hezbollah aren't repaying a debt. They are fighting in Syria because they make it their duty to fight terrorism wherever it rears its ugly head. Weather it's state terrorism in Israel or Al Qaeda in Syria they are there to save the day. They killed 500 terrorists in Syria in one day. Fighting Islamic maniacs is always to the benefit of humanity. Most of all it's in their interest and in the interest of the Lebanese people to fight and defend Lebanese borders from the swarm of Islamic ignorant low life scum. They are spreading like locusts threatening the very way of life that Syrians and Lebanese have become accustomed to. Lebanon must not become another Iraq, Libya, Syria or Afghanistan. Hezbollah are sacrificing the lives of their best of the best to make sure that will not happen. It is also in their interest to fight along their Shiite brothers in order to keep the alliance between Iran, Syria and Lebanon intact. Lebanon owes a lot to Hezbollah. They are the only ones that have guaranteed the security of Lebanon's southern border and now defend the northern border. They also maintain stability inside the country whenever somebody tries to start making noise. Heroes they are I tell you. Heroes!

Here's something I found cute. The crisis in Syria for dummies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n2aBYYigoA


Very interesting. I admit to not really paying that much attention to Hezbollah but from what I have seen of them it seems to be the case. Perhaps why the US govt keeps calling them a terrorist organization. Because they are going against what the authorities want. They want all this chaos and shit going on so they can steal. Look at Iraq and Afghanistan. Both now have puppets who will do what the US govt wants and give them shit.
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Post 26 Jul 2013, 21:29
The US government calls them a terrorist organization for many reasons. Before I start stating the reasons I wonder if people actually know that there is no single definition for terrorism; that there is no internationally recognized legal criminal law against terrorism; and that studies have shown there to be more than one hundred definitions for the word. If we were to use all these definitions, then by definition every single politician, soldier, and civilian who has ever participated in military activities is a terrorist all the way from Alexander the Great to George Washington to Vladimir Putin to Barrack Obama. The fact of the matter is that the word terrorism has become a tool used by states and individuals alike to delegitimize political opponents, and potentially legitimize the state's own use of armed force (such use of force may be described as "terror" by the opposition alike). Hezbollah is a terrorist to America because it's in the interest of the US to call them them terrorists. The US are in alliance with Israel and so have no choice but to call them terrorists. Politicians in Israel and America do it for the votes during election campaigns. People love pointing their fingers at the bad guys. Having political opponents as well as military enemies always makes the accuser look like a sort of super hero in the eyes of potential voters. After all a person with enemies means the person is goal oriented with a task of eliminating the world of evil. How else could have George W. Bush won the elections twice? Barrack Obama killed Osama Bin Laden and became a hero thus securing his second term in office. It's all politics! The American government is responsible for the deaths of more people than all so called terrorist organizations combined. It is true that Hezbollah has carried out many military operations leading to more than one thousand deaths over the span of thirty years. The difference between Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah is that all those deaths at the hands of Hezbollah were those of military personal; that means soldiers who they themselves landed on Lebanese soil guns and grenades in hand ready to shoot at the local population as soon as their superiors order them to. Hezbollah never carried out any military action against civilian populations anywhere in the world except for the time they were firing rockets into Israeli towns and cities during the 2006 Lebanon war. That was when according to amnesty international almost 2000 Lebanese civilians were killed under Israeli bombardment as opposed to 44 Israeli civilians killed under Hezbollah rockets. Israel kills more civilians over the span of one month than Hezbollah has killed military combatants over the span of 30 years. The imbalance is obvious. Still because of those many combatants killed by Hezbollah, 241 of them were American marines, and that's enough to label them terrorists by the US. I wonder if people even know that Hezbollah were one of the first people within the international Muslim community to condemn the September 11 attacks on the twin towers. Hassan Nasrallah, General Secretary of Hezbollah said in a 2006 interview with the Washington Post: “If there are American tourists, or intellectuals, doctors, or professors who have nothing to do with this war, they are innocent, even though they are Americans, and it is forbidden. It is not acceptable to harm them.” Every time there is some sort of terrorist bombing against a civilian population done in the name of Islam Hezbollah has always condemned it. Another difference between Hezbollah and Al-Qaeda is that Hezbollah recognize all religions as legitimate under the eyes of God. Nasrallah himself in a speech after the 2006 war with Israel said his dept and gratitude to the Lebanese christian community under the leadership of General Michel Aoun (the christian Lebanese MP with the majority of christian seats in parliament) is something that will stay with him till the end of time. He said literally that we Shiites owe our necks to the Christian community for all the support they have given us including political, financial, and humanitarian. A huge portion of the Shiite refugees that were fleeing Israeli bombardment in the south were given shelter by Christians in the north. I believe Hassan Nasrallah to be one of the most tolerant religious Muslim leaders since the great Arab legendary leader Saladin. Al-Qaeda on the other hand don't owe their necks to anyone, but instead chop off the necks of anyone who isn't a Sunni including Muslims, Christians, Buddhist, or Jew. Some people argue that Hezbollah carry out assassinations around the world making them terrorists. Then again tell me is there a single country that doesn't use its intelligence services to carry out political assassinations? Hezbollah are backed up by their bigger brothers Iran, who in turn are backed by an even greater power Russia. Sometimes when big brother asks that someone be taken out be that an Israeli diplomat or otherwise you have to do it. That's just the way politics works and the CIA, Mossad, and FSB are at war and all use less than commendable tactics. To sum it up Hezbollah have never done anything that wasn't in service and in the interest of Lebanon. They brought dignity, secularism, stability, and peace to their country. If they didn't have the weapons they have, Lebanon would have been swept away in this damned Arab spring that has destroyed the Arab community. Now once again they sacrifice in the name of their country and God by eliminating every Islamic fundamentalist whether it's Jabhat Al-Nusra or Al-Qaeda from spreading their poison into the Lebanese Muslim community. They are eliminating the very people who have given Muslims all around the world a bad image and a bad name; those Islamic fanatics who are themselves victims of oppression, ignorance, poverty, and brainwashing by some of the most dictatorial backward states like Saudi Arabia who are in turn in bed with Imperialist powers that kill Arabs every day. May God protect all who fight under the banner of the Party of God! HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!
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Post 27 Jul 2013, 01:56
Here is a long speech made by General Secretary of Hezbollah Hassan Nasrallah regarding all his thoughts on the situation in Syria and Lebanon. The speech is perfectly translated into English subtitles and is perfect for anyone interested in understanding Hezbollah Ideology and is perfect especially for those who criticize him of sectarianism or of defending and fighting alongside the brutal Ba'ath dictatorship. Notice how he indeed critiques the Ba'ath government saying that the call for reforms is a genuine request by many peace loving Syrians and anyone has the right to oppose government brutality and corruption. Then listen to when he explains that fighting alongside the regime with all its faults is automatic when compared to the alternative of fighting alongside an alliance of Israeli, Turkish, Saudi, and Western states who wage war in Syria by using some of the most dangerous people on this planet; Islamic Fundamentalists and the ensuing nightmarish situation that would arise in the region if they were to be victorious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oReNCMhJTQ
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Post 30 Jul 2013, 01:01
In regards to Hizb Allah and other religious movements:

The various religious movement of any sort should be judged by their stance towards imperialism and the struggle for peace, peoples power and revolution.


Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah and Hizbollah are with the Resistance to imperialism, with the peoples struggles. They are right -- even if you hate them and so on one can not deny objective facts.
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Post 31 Jul 2013, 03:55
Been busy the past few days with an assignment so sorry I'm just now responding.

Actually, there is a legally recognized definition of terrorism and it's the one the FBI uses which is, in short, terrorism is generally defined by politically motivated violence. It's violence to push people to this or that political ideal. You can go to fbi.gov and see the full definition there, but that's just a summary of it.

Never heard that with Hezbollah but I'm not surprised since they're in Lebanon and there is a good decent size Christian population there last time I checked. You can't be so popular like them without the approval of majority of the population. So, they do get points from me on that issue. It's good to have tolerant leaders. I wonder how tolerant they are of non-believers, LGBT, women? Do you know anything of them with that?

I do agree about Islamic fanatics and really any religious fanatics. I'm religious myself (gnostic Christian) but you gotta know a boundary and getting too far deep (kinda sounds like drugs eh? heh). I wasn't sure if Lebanon was secular or not so I'm glad they are and maybe it can be an example to other nations in the region. I wish Egypt and Syria would look to that.

It is amusing to me to see places like Saudi Arabia and the fact they are so conservative with Islam and do some horrible things like with women and rape victims. It's some nasty shit. But then they are bff's with the US and it's just all sad to me.
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Post 31 Jul 2013, 05:17
lol the FBI fits its own definition if terrorism.
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Post 31 Jul 2013, 05:21
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LOL! the FBI fits its own definition of terrorism.

I was especially waiting for someone else to say that. Just goes to further prove my point and show what a nonsense term terrorism has evolved into.
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Post 31 Jul 2013, 16:01
http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-goin ... Al-Assad's Syrian government made huge compromises starting in 2011,lifting the was it 40 or 50 year emergency law which was one of the key demands of some of the original protesters,as well as introducing the first multi-party elections(democracy).The hardcore Muslim brotherhood in Syria who were used by the USA to start this war against the Syrian people just like they were used by the North American Terrorist Organisation in Libya,would not take part in these elections since they knew the Syrian people were fully behind the Syrian government,Assad and *only*"A peaceful revolution"
This mob supported by the NATO imperialists,Arab dictators and their Islamic terrorists demanded war and that is what they got.That US war criminal Gen.Wesley Clark who presided over the disgusting terrorist bombing of Serbia-
http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-goin ... -iran/5166
showed how Syria was on the US's list.Seymour Hersh has more info here-
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... east55.htm

Yeah that woman is it De La Ponte or something at the UN stated the rebels were using chemical weapons and straight away the imperialists in the white house said no it must be the Syrian government...utter rubbish!Americans and us British will believe any shit we are told to by our business parties.Thank god for Syria,Russia,China,Iran,Venezuela,Hezbollah,Bolivia etc and all peoples of the world brave enought to stand up against the warmongering neo-liberal NATO imperialists and transnationals of what Lenin called monopoly capitalism and their assorted dictators !
And don't forget the armed protesters at the very start murdering Syrian policemen and burning down government buildings,but that's all hushed up by the western media of the BBC,ITN,Channel 4,Fox,Sky etc and all the flippin newspapers who are owned by the rich and are themselves the PR arm of Nato imperialism.

Don't believe a word from these propagandists.
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Long live secular Syria! May all live peacefully side by side and may the mighty Syrian military machine together with Hezbollah once and for all vanquish the very last remnants of terrorism from holy Syrian soil and God willing from all the Land of Al-Sham!
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I was especially waiting for someone else to say that. Just goes to further prove my point and show what a nonsense term terrorism has evolved into.


That's just the definition that is generally accepted and they happen to accept it as well. For as long as I've been around in politics and studying the issue terrorism has always been that definition. Politically motivated violence meant to sway the public. That's what it is. As far as the FBI goes well everyone knows their history and present...
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Post 05 Aug 2013, 06:03
Terrorism has many forms, certainly not limited to political violence.
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Have to say.....convinced me.
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Post 19 Feb 2014, 20:25
Finally, the truth is coming. We were right once again.


http://rt.com/news/study-challenges-syria-chemical-attack-681/
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I don't know if this article from the London Review of Books has already been posted, but it explains pretty much the RT link my comrade has posted here. The article is pretty important as it points out the glaring fault of US intelligence: their timeline is all wrong and completely back to front, by which I mean it's apparently hastily cobbled together in retrospect, despite claiming to have been monitoring every communique/signal within Syria without halt, delay or fault. All they did was sit about with cheesy doritos watching youtube.
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