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Do you support the unificiation of Korea?

Yes, as a DPRK
13
48%
Yes, as a ROK
2
7%
No / pro-status quo
2
7%
Other
10
37%
 
Total votes : 27
Loz
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Philosophized
Post 03 Apr 2012, 21:23
Do you support the unificiation of Korea (either as a DPRK under Pyongyang or ROK under Seoul )?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Jul 2006, 04:49
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Old Bolshevik
Post 03 Apr 2012, 23:04
They should be reunited under the RoK and their benevolent American masters. After all, I heard that they are performing horrible medical experiments in Yodok and that it is no better than Nazi Germany. I believe that Kim Jong-il was starving his people while drinking Henessy cognac. I also heard that they are reducing the bodies of gulag inmates to soap. I read all off the internet and also read the books of DPRK critics, so it must be true.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 09 Mar 2012, 02:37
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Pioneer
Post 03 Apr 2012, 23:21
No/ pro status quo. Unification under DPRK is impossible today and a unification under ROK would be good for the south koreans but extremely bad for the north koreans because the discrimination and inequalities would always be there as it happens today in Germany despite the long years after the unification.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Aug 2010, 14:21
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Post 03 Apr 2012, 23:46
I voted other. I support the unification, but both populations will have to prepare peace and find an agreement.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Sep 2006, 22:05
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Philosophized
Post 03 Apr 2012, 23:50
The Korean peninsula will never be truly reunited except through socialism, anything less would be more subjugation. The DPRK won't survive this but the United Korean people will surely remember its best parts fondly.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 20 Jul 2007, 06:59
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Post 04 Apr 2012, 06:26
I have a sinking feeling that if the DPRK collapsed and the RoK took over, then we'll be hearing about how the DPRK wasn't a bad place after all, and how now the bourgeoisie from the south bought everything.

As much as I dislike the way the DPRK is run, I doubt that a takeover from the south would be in its benefit.
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Embalmed
Post 04 Apr 2012, 16:41
Other: No nation, no border.
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Post 04 Apr 2012, 17:10
Yes, under the RoK, for the sole purpose of pissing off juche pseudo-reds and creating a unified block against Japanese whitewashing.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 12 Jun 2011, 15:14
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Post 04 Apr 2012, 17:53
I voted other, as I actually support unification under a revived People's Republic of Korea. Most people probally do not even know that this nationstate ever even existed.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Jul 2006, 04:49
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Old Bolshevik
Post 04 Apr 2012, 22:54
Comrade_Canuck wrote:
Yes, under the RoK, for the sole purpose of pissing off juche pseudo-reds and creating a unified block against Japanese whitewashing.


It is so laughable that you have the temerity to call me a "pseudo-red" when you so blatantly support American Imperialism.

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Other: No nation, no border.


Nations are not states.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Aug 2008, 18:12
Komsomol
Post 04 Apr 2012, 23:11
Other. The border between the two Koreas needs to be abolished as much as the border between the DPRK and China.

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Nations are not states.


But nations are used to legitimise states.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Jul 2006, 04:49
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Old Bolshevik
Post 04 Apr 2012, 23:19
Quote:
But nations are used to legitimise states.


True, but what I am getting at is that states can contain many nations, for example, the USSR had Estonians, Kazakhs, Russians, Chuvashes, etc.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 28 Feb 2012, 16:12
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Post 07 May 2012, 09:35
While it would be better for Korea to become an unified socialist nation, the hyper-militaristic, social-reactionary, repressive Juche system is not the way forward for the Korea. Placing the RoK's population under Juche rule would be callous: Barracks socialism ain't a desirable fate. And placing the DPRK's territory under RoK rule is simply unconscionable: American bourgeois and their South Korean compradors would just plunder the infrastructure and resources the North Korean people own and paid for in their sweat and blood.

Eventual reunification is desirable, but not in a way that either regime (The totalitarian Kims or the pretty-much-fascist Seoul compradors) can play as a conquest or a political victory.

What Korea needs is peace. Not a ceasefire, not a Cold-War truce... Actual fraggin' peace. An end to the saber-rattling would help diminish both Pyongyang and Seoul's own brutal militarisms, allow closer ties between the two nations and pave the way for reunification in the future.
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Post 07 May 2012, 16:15
I voted RoK because people there are happier than in the North, according to the liberal media. By all accounts, North Koreans are a vicious and stunted breed of dwarves who live underground and exist on a crude subsistence diet supplied by the good ole' US of A.

Actually, I don't know anything about South. Maybe things are bad there, too. But probably not so much.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 01 Nov 2003, 13:17
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Post 07 May 2012, 18:28
Other

The Korean nation must be unified on any terms the people there see fit.
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Post 08 May 2012, 01:03
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It is so laughable that you have the temerity to call me a "pseudo-red" when you so blatantly support American Imperialism.

I forget not bowing down to the Eternal Leader, the Magical General, and the Fat Sun as the holy trinity is blasphemy to socialism and imperialist in nature.
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The Korean nation must be unified on any terms the people there see fit.

^This

The unfortunate reality to consider is 1) What side has more friends when the curtains close(RoK) and 2) Which culturally will influence itself as the dominate group. Realistically in both circumstances it will be more likely that the RoK would win in both circumstances on the cultural front which could be a double edged sword for both sides.... Another key point is to consider what in the immediate will benefit the population most in standard of living on the whole which again at this immediate point would again be the RoK.

At the end of the day when reunification DOES take place it's going to be Germany 1989 on crack and differences socially, culturally, politically, and economically will remain persistent for decades if not longer.
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Post 08 May 2012, 14:36
It won't be a unification, it'll be an annexation.
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