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Post 07 Jun 2011, 09:00
Terrible news for the Belgian proletarian movement, and for the international Communist movement in general.
Ludo Martens, leader of the May '68 student riots, founder of the Student Union (SVB) and thus of the democratic respresentation of students at Belgian universities, first denunciator of paedophilia in the catholic church (decades before the first judicial cases were even opened), great Marxist-Leninist ideologist and writer of books such as "Another view on Stalin", friend of the international proletarian liberation movements, most notably in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, internationally respected Comrade and founder of the Worker's Party of Belgium and Medicine for the People, has deceased today from acute Alzheimer's disease.

The passing of Ludo Martens leaves a void in the hearts of Communists and proletarians, especially in Belgium. A man who has dedicated his entire life to the service of the Masses has passed on, but his legacy will live forever onward.

Ludo Martens, you may have left our eye, but you will never leave our hearts. It is our duty to carry on the proletarian torch that you have light.
Last edited by Wakizashi the Bolshevik on 07 Jun 2011, 10:13, edited 1 time in total.
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Post 07 Jun 2011, 09:04
Wakizashi the Bolshevik wrote:
The passing of Ludo Martens leaves a void in the hearts of all honest Communists and proletarians


So fitting that he'd be remembered in the most sectarian way possible.
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Post 07 Jun 2011, 09:19
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So fitting that he'd be remembered in the most sectarian way possible


Forgive me for feeling not quite happy about the death of the founder of my party
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Maybe you didn't notice it, but I'm kind of giving a eulogy, sorry if I didn't fit in to your exact views...
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Post 07 Jun 2011, 09:28
Forgive me for not caring that one of the worst types of sectarians, just as bad as any third-camp Trotskyist, kicked it. I mean I wouldn't have said anything because I'm not thrilled about it either. It was just funny how you kept up his tradition of dividing communists into true and false categories. Like I said it's fitting, it wasn't a joke.
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Post 07 Jun 2011, 10:12
You do realise that the Communist movement wouldn't even properly exist without it being founded by Martens?
Disagreeing with the exact words I used, which doesn't even matter much, I'm willing to change the phrase structure it if you want, is one thing.
Insulting the man who founded the current Communist movement in Belgium is another. Rather sectarian to denounce fellow Communists based solely on that, if you ask me.

Edit: I edited the first post, I hope you're happy now.
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Post 07 Jun 2011, 16:18
A huge loss , RIP
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Post 07 Jun 2011, 16:28
RIP comrade L.Martens.
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Post 07 Jun 2011, 18:35
Wakizashi the Bolshevik wrote:
You do realise that the Communist movement wouldn't even properly exist without it being founded by Martens?


Ha ha wow.

Wakizashi the Bolshevik wrote:
Insulting the man who founded the current Communist movement in Belgium is another. Rather sectarian to denounce fellow Communists based solely on that, if you ask me.


So it's sectarian to not like sectarians? Also I haven't insulted anyone, like I said your sectarian way of presenting this was fitting.

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Edit: I edited the first post, I hope you're happy now.


I'm not. I liked it better the way it was.
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Post 07 Jun 2011, 18:40
Dagoth do you really have to be such an asshole and turn the topic commemorating the comrade's death into this?
What a disgrace.
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Post 07 Jun 2011, 18:42
I don't consider people who spend their entire careers setting marxists against one another comrades of mine.

Loz wrote:
What a disgrace.


Save me the indignity. Martens did not deserve it.
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Post 07 Jun 2011, 20:42
I don't know who this guy is. oops
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Post 08 Jun 2011, 03:44
It's a shame he passed, RIP Ludo Martens.

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Dagoth Ur wrote:
Forgive me for not caring that one of the worst types of sectarians, just as bad as any third-camp Trotskyist, kicked it.

This quote from wikipedia does not make him seem like a horrible sectarian.
Ludo Martens' Wikipedia Page wrote:
Within the International Communist Movement, he is noted for having proposed the unification of the four main tendencies of the Marxist-Leninist movement. These are the pro-Soviet groups, the pro-Chinese, the pro-Albanian, and pro-Cuban. In addition there are "independents." Martens has put forward that while at a certain time these separations were important and based on principle, they can now be overcome and the movement can be united on the basis of Marxism-Leninism.
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Post 08 Jun 2011, 04:55
Ineed. What I read from this guy seems pretty good. RIP comrade Martens.
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Post 08 Jun 2011, 09:57
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Martens did not deserve it.


You call that not insulting?
So you'd rather prefer having Belgium without Communist movement then with a Communist movement founded by Ludo Martens. Wait, wasn't there such a key Marxist principle... oh yes it's called materialism. You should try it.
And, since you're such a professional regarding Martens, I suppose you also know whose idea the renovation and opening of the Party was? Exactly.
Ludo Martens's idea. What a terrible sectarian...
I suggest you go party now, one of your fellow Communists has died. But hey, you didn't agree with him 100%, so that makes his death a good thing, no?
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Post 08 Jun 2011, 18:46
He wrote a good book, but anti-revisionism still sucks.
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