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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Aug 2010, 14:21
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Post 31 Oct 2010, 21:58
Very interesting. Can you give a source ?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 04 Aug 2007, 23:25
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Post 24 Jan 2011, 23:50
The rapes did occur indeed, but not on a large scale or in any organised or planned way. It was not a weapon used against the German population, but actions made by individual soldiers. In several cases Commissars and political officers actually executed rapists, in order to discourage this sort of behaviour.
And of course, compared to the fact that the Red Army actually saved the world, using rape cases as an argument to rant about the Red Army as a whole is simply nonsensical.
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Post 24 Jan 2011, 23:56
When people talk about that Red soldiers committed rape they always fail to note that this was happening on every single front by every group. Occasionally you hear about Nazi's rape crime against Slavs, and disturbingly even less about Japan's horrific sex-crimes against the Chinese, you never hear about it happening from the Western Allied side. They happened, it's just you never hear about it.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 12 May 2010, 07:43
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Post 25 Jan 2011, 00:07
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disturbingly even less about Japan's horrific sex-crimes against the Chinese

Which is ironic, because there was even an entire episode that has become known as the "Rape of Nanjing."

The Cold War definitely played a part in the strong emphasis on the Red Army's actions, while downplaying what the Germans (of whom those in the FRG were considered allies) and the Japanese (who were considered allies, once they became a bourgeois state with a Western-style constitution) did. I suspect that the lack of attention paid to Japanese actions in many parts of Asia, such as the use of Korean and Chinese women as "comfort women" for Japanese officers, as well as the mass rape and murder that the Japanese soldiers committed might be tied to the fact that many of those countries that had previously been victims of Japanes aggression became states led by Communist Parties in the post-war period, from China and DPRK in the late 40's to North Vietnam in the 1950's and the fully unified Vietnam in the '70s after decades of military action by Communist forces and guerrillas.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Feb 2008, 15:25
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Post 25 Jan 2011, 03:54
As far as mistreating women goes, I can't think of anything which comes near to what the Japanese did to the Chinese during world war II. It takes a lot to make me spew, but some of the pictures which came out of Nanjing did the job. The Japanese government should be forced to officially apologise for the crimes its soldiers commited, not mention the whole invasion itself. The fact that they haven't done so 60 years later shows what the Japanese have for balls.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 11 Sep 2009, 07:33
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Post 25 Jan 2011, 04:05
I saw a book at the bookstore, but I didn't buy it, that was all about how German authorities and generals basically white-washed their image during the Cold War. They used the anti-communist sentiments in the West to justify a lot of their actions, clean up their records, and hide all the atrocities the German Army committed against the Soviets and other Europeans, or dull them down at least.
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