Soviet cogitations: 1446 Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Oct 2007, 15:55 Party Member
20 Dec 2010, 03:30
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19 December 2010 Last updated at 19:23 ET Protesters try to storm government HQ in Belarus
Thousands of opposition protesters in Belarus have tried to storm the government headquarters, following the country's presidential election.
The demonstrators smashed windows and the doors of the building in Minsk, but were later pushed back by riot police.
Four presidential candidates have been arrested. Another was injured in an earlier incident.
Incumbent Alexander Lukashenko is widely expected to win the poll, which the opposition claims has been rigged.
Exit polls suggest he is far ahead of his nearest rival in Sunday's vote, having secured more than 70% of the vote.
Under the authoritarian leader now seeking his fourth term, the former Soviet republic has never held a poll seen as fair by international monitors.
However, the election campaign itself was much freer than in the past, correspondents say.
'Mass arrests'
By late evening at least 10,000 protesters had gathered in central Minsk, denouncing the elections as fraudulent.
Waving unofficial Belarusian white-red-white flags, they shouted: "For Freedom!", "Down with Lukashenko!" and "Down with Gulag (Soviet-era labour camps)!"
The demonstrators then tried to storm the government building but were pushed back by the riot police.
Dozens of protesters were injured in clashes after being beaten with batons, according to the Associated Press news agency.
More riot police then arrived in central Minsk and began dispersing the demonstrators. There were also reports of mass arrests.
A BBC correspondent in Minsk says four presidential candidates were among those detained: Andrey Sannikov, Nikolay Statkevich, Grigory Kostusev and Vitaly Rymashevsky.
'Read our laws' Earlier another opposition candidate Vladimir Neklyaev was injured when the police broke up a rally staged by some 200 of his supporters.
Mr Neklyaev's campaign activists told the BBC that he was badly beaten and taken to hospital with head injuries.
Police used noise grenades and truncheons to break up the demonstration, reports say.
Mr Lukashenko had earlier warned his opponents against organising rallies as he cast his vote.
"What is awaiting supporters of the protest - read our laws. Everything will be in strict accordance with the law.
"Don't worry, nobody is going to be on the square tonight," the president added.
Police had earlier warned it would crack down hard on any protests.
'Window-dressing'
Nine challengers were competing with Mr Lukashenko for the presidency.
For the first time, state television aired a debate among the contenders opposing the president, who has governed since 1994.
Mr Lukashenko - who remains popular among large sections of the population - did not take part in the discussion.
The authorities also allowed activists to collect signatures during the election campaign, perform protest songs and read anti-government poetry.
Despite this, many in Belarus believe that the election day result has already been pre-ordained and the political thaw is merely window-dressing, the BBC's David Stern in Minsk reports.
"Lukashenko needs this to show to the Europeans because he needs money from Europe," Andrei Sannikov, one of the three main opposition candidates, said earlier this week.
"The economy is in very bad shape and he needs additional credits," he said.
Mr Lukashenko, who denies the opposition's claim, has said he is not planning to leave, whether by the ballot box or other means.
Asked by reporters last week if the vote would bring any political changes, he said: "There will definitely be political changes. I am sure you meant political changes in general, but no change of power in Belarus."
Soviet cogitations: 9644 Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Jul 2008, 20:01 Ideology: Trotskyism Embalmed
20 Dec 2010, 04:31
Lukashenko wrote:
We are not going to answer them. I want to come from the premise that the elections in Belarus are held for ourselves. I am sure that it is the Belarus people who are the masters in our state.
This is really all I have to say to that. I don't respect these people any more than I respect those goddamn idiots that stormed the Berlin Wall. I wouldn't mind bullets.
Soviet cogitations: 1446 Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Oct 2007, 15:55 Party Member
20 Dec 2010, 04:52
Bullets...? Nahh.. Bad idea..
Right now the media views Belarus as just another state run by some dictator with unfair elections, on par with most African states. If there would be bullets it would be too reminiscent of Tiananmen Square, only on a smaller level.
We have beaten you to the moon, but you have beaten us in sausage making.- Nikita Khrushchev
Soviet cogitations: 3507 Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Oct 2004, 22:04 Ideology: Marxism-Leninism Resident Soviet
20 Dec 2010, 07:10
Strange, but neither this article nor any other English language ones I've seen mention that Neklyaev's 'rally' was really an attempt to prevent police from inspecting two vans containing gear to be used against the riot police at the square, including batons, smoke grenades, tear gas and some minor explosives. It's funny too that Neklyaev's the one who got hit, considering he was the most aggressive proponent of rioting. In the presidential debates earlier this month, after introducing himself and inciting viewers to come to October Square to 'take back the country', he walked off the stage and left. Actually, it would probably be safe to say that all the arrested candidates (really just glorified provocateurs) deserved it. Most of them called for people to come to the square, either to celebrate victory or to make it theirs by force. The police reaction would be the same anywhere in the world.
P.S. Batka's victory is the greatest Christmas gift one could receive.
"The thing about capitalism is that it sounds awful on paper and is horrendous in practice. Communism sounds wonderful on paper and when it was put into practice it was done pretty well for what they had to work with." -MiG
Soviet cogitations: 4361 Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 08 Nov 2007, 06:31 Ideology: Other Leftist Politburo
21 Dec 2010, 00:44
Belarus is a capitalist economy with majority state ownership, giving the people some accountability, but nonetheless oppressive as no amount of accountability will dissolve the contradiction between capital and labour.
Belarus is not socialist. Belarus is a state that took the opposite approach to achieving capitalist restoration from other ex-soviet republics (i.e. refusing a neo-liberal economy, cherishing its soviet past and refusing to do whatever it takes to please the west, etc.)
It can only be considered socialist by liberal standards.
Soviet cogitations: 694 Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 04 Aug 2007, 23:25 Ideology: Marxism-Leninism Komsomol
14 Jan 2011, 15:40
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Why should we support Lukashenko?
He is the only Eastern European leader who cares about the People. An illustration of this is given by the fact that the border between Belarus and the American Satellite State of Lithuania is closed with fences.
And regarding the topic subject: I have no respect whatsoever for the mercenaries of the West who seek to overthrow Belarus and demand "democracy". We've seen how that turned out in all other Warsaw Pact nations. Belarus is the only nation in Eastern Europe that has retained its dignity, and did not prostitute herself to NATO.
"Communism is more about love for mankind than about politics." Me
Soviet cogitations: 16 Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Feb 2011, 14:18 New Comrade (Say hi & be nice to me!)
14 Feb 2011, 13:21
Belorussia now is most social-oriented country in ex-USSR. Lukashenko is strong leader but he realy loves his country and protect the regular belorussian people.
My English is very bad. Sorry. I am former Soviet, now Russian. Can answer the questions