98th anniversary of the birthday of Kim Il Sung

holy shit :/ it always amazes me what north korea do with their main ressources, people.

Shouldn't they save up their celebrations until his 100th birthday, where they could throw a very large celebration? Oh yeah, that country is still obsessed with him years after he died and I hope that bizarre personality of cult disappears when Kim Jong-Il is gone.

He's called Kim Jong-Il. Also if the political system of the DPRK doesn't change, nothing will change about the hero worship of its leaders, either.

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Shouldn't they save up their celebrations until his 100th birthday, where they could throw a very large celebration? Oh yeah, that country is still obsessed with him years after he died and I hope that bizarre personality of cult disappears when Kim Jong-Il is gone.

They are planning on completing this building (finally!) after all those years for Kim Il-sung's 100th birthday:


And I'm guessing there will be indeed a huge celebration.

And hundreds of thousands of tourist can't wait for a visa to enter DPRK...
That hotel would have been full to the last room at all the times!
Lol.Even the existent hotels in PY aren't even close to half capacity.

Actually I'm considering to go there for Kim Il Sung's 100th birthday, Loz.

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Actually I'm considering to go there for Kim Il Sung's 100th birthday, Loz.

Why don't go to a real socialist state,like Cuba?
It sure as hell is a better vacation than strolling around PY,bowing to monuments and watching mass games?
Also,last time i checked it was something like 1200 Euros for a week there.

I'd love to go to Cuba as well, but I'm sure that going to the DPRK would be much more interesting.

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I'd love to go to Cuba as well, but I'm sure that going to the DPRK would be much more interesting.

Why do you think it would be more interesting?

Because it's an entirely different culture? (Unlike Cuba.) Because nobody knows anything about what's really going on inside the country? (Unlike Cuba.)

It would be like an adventure trip. Unlike Cuba, which is more like... tourism.

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Because it's an entirely different culture? (Unlike Cuba.)

And Cuban culture isn't different from "ours"?

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Because nobody knows anything about what's really going on inside the country? (Unlike Cuba.)

I'm sure you too wouldn't get a chance to find out "what's really going on inside DPRK".
No way man.
In Cuba you can at least go wherever you want and talk to people.

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It would be like an adventure trip. Unlike Cuba, which is more like... tourism.

Habana,maybe.
But go deeper in the countryside,who's gonna hold you?

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And Cuban culture isn't different from "ours"?

Not that much.

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I'm sure you too wouldn't get a chance to find out "what's really going on inside DPRK".

At least I'd have more of a clue than I get from reading stupid internet reports.

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But go deeper in the countryside,who's gonna hold you?

There are countryside tours in the DPRK as well, and still... I kind of feel like I know what to expect from Cuba. The DPRK on the other hand is a huge mystery.

Visiting North Korea is quite expensive and you could vacation in other areas for the same price such as Switzerland or Bermuda. Even though visiting the state in its present form is appealing, I wouldn't go through so many bureaucratic hurdles to visit it.

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Do you have evidence for this, or are you simply trolling?

Well,i saw dozens of "trip reports" where people say that there were just a few people in the hotels besides them.
How many tourists go to PY each year anyway?

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You are misguided. You can also do this in the DPRK.

OK.I accept this.But for sure,Cuba is far more open to a tourist than DPRK

That's because Cuba is not at war with the US.

Cuba is under embargo god damn it,just like DPRK.
And what does USA have to do with Cuban internal tourist policy anyway?
There are plenty of Europeans going to Cuba

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You can also do this in the DPRK.

Maybe. But Cuba doesn't stick tourists with guards through their entire trip. That's a pretty substantial difference.

Also I'm curious as to why they do that. I always assumed it was for reasons of national security. It seems perfectly believable that the DPRK is under a substantially greater threat of imperialism than Cuba, after all, and people tend to forget that. The US doesn't regularly do joint military exercises with local hostile nations just outside of Cuba.

I'm not necessarily trying to criticize the North for their policies towards foreigners. By all accounts that I've read their officials are very cordial and considerate, if rather strict and conservative. But also by all accounts, they are by far the most closed and secretive of socialist countries. It's hardly arguable that they are as open as Cuba. Again, I don't intend it as criticism. It's not my country, and I have no platform on which to correct them.

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Because it's an entirely different culture? (Unlike Cuba.) Because nobody knows anything about what's really going on inside the country? (Unlike Cuba.)

This. Cuba's Spanish heritage gives it's culture a lot of European characteristics. I expect that their culture will not be that starkly different from my own. Korea, however, is a different animal altogether, it's about as far from the west as you can get, and by every indication the DPRK has been extremely diligent to make sure their culture is distinctly Korean with as little foreign influence as possible.

When I go to North Korea, I'll probably be with a KFA group. Though I can't help but be concerned with some of the things I've heard about them. They're supposedly very intolerant of under-zealousness.

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Why don't go to a real socialist state,like Cuba?

It sure as hell is a better vacation than strolling around PY,bowing to monuments and watching mass games?

But the mass games are awesome. I don't care if it's the DPRK, you don't see shit like that everyday, and I'm sure going to watch those, even once, would be a cool experience. Besides, I don't think you have to "bow" to the monuments, and I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I think the monuments in Socialist Realist style are pretty cool.