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thekraken
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Post 06 May 2010, 00:46
Something happened in Mexico today because it's Cinco de Mayo. Oh ok it says on wiki that they defeated French forces. That makes sense.
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Post 06 May 2010, 18:11
They fought off a European invasion of Mexico. I don't know all of the details and I'm too lazy to look it up, but it had something to do with an agreement between France and England for land or something.
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Post 06 May 2010, 19:00
6500 french lost a battle against 4500 mexicans that were in a fort
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Post 06 May 2010, 19:01
What do you expect they're French.
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Post 06 May 2010, 19:03
The french won the war.
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I've never heard those words in the same sentence before.
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Post 06 May 2010, 19:20
The French have a better win-lose ratio for wars than the US.
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Post 06 May 2010, 21:55
The french were in more wars then the US..
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Post 06 May 2010, 23:35
thekraken wrote:
I've never heard those words in the same sentence before.


You've never heard of Napoleon?
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The french were in more wars then the US..

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The French have a better win-lose ratio for wars than the US.


Irrelevant post is irrelevant.
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You've never heard of Napoleon?

Of course I have I was making a joke. I've also heard of Charlemagne and World War I.

Whitten wrote:
The French have a better win-lose ratio for wars than the US.

The US will say they never lost a war. I say they lost Nam and I'm sure most people here agree.
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Post 07 May 2010, 16:21
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You've never heard of Napoleon?


Greatest military mind of France. Only he was given the privilige of surrendering twice!

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The US will say they never lost a war. I say they lost Nam and I'm sure most people here agree.


By most "objective" American counts, we "tied" in Korea, and definitely lost in Vietnam. Iraq is still seen as "salvageable" by the Pentagon, so from their perspective it's 50/50, but Afghanistan will most likely be another minus.
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Post 07 May 2010, 16:22
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World War I.

The French didn't do so well in WWI without the help of the US. That's why they were so angry at Germany afterwards
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The French didn't do so well in WWI without the help of the US. That's why they were so angry at Germany afterwards


No.Their army faced widespread dissatisfaction and there was a danger of total collapse after Verdun.
Harsh measures were taken,but it's actually English who saved France in this most dramatic moment,rather than Americans.
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Post 07 May 2010, 16:41
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The United States was never formally a member of the Allies but became a self-styled "Associated Power". The United States had a small army, but, after the passage of the Selective Service Act, it drafted four million men and by summer 1918 was sending 10,000 fresh soldiers to France every day. In 1917, the U.S. Congress gave U.S. citizenship to Puerto Ricans when they were drafted to participate in World War I, as part of the Jones Act. Germany had miscalculated, believing it would be many more months before they would arrive and that the arrival could be stopped by U-boats.[93]

The United States Navy sent a battleship group to Scapa Flow to join with the British Grand Fleet, destroyers to Queenstown, Ireland and submarines to help guard convoys. Several regiments of U.S. Marines were also dispatched to France. The British and French wanted U.S. units used to reinforce their troops already on the battle lines and not waste scarce shipping on bringing over supplies. The U.S. rejected the first proposition and accepted the second. General John J. Pershing, American Expeditionary Force (AEF) commander, refused to break up U.S. units to be used as reinforcements for British Empire and French units. As an exception, he did allow African-American combat regiments to be used in French divisions. The Harlem Hellfighters fought as part of the French 16th Division, earning a unit Croix de Guerre for their actions at Chateau-Thierry, Belleau Wood and Sechault.[94] AEF doctrine called for the use of frontal assaults, which had long since been discarded by British Empire and French commanders because of the large loss of life.[95]


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That proves nothing relevant to my previous posts.
I'm still right,because it was the English who saved French army in it's hardest moment:widespread mutinies after Verdun.
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Post 07 May 2010, 17:17
It proves that the US helped the French in WWI


Like with troops...10,000 troops a day...
They helped the English too.
Like seriously, what is your issue with Americans? Besides everybody elses?
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Post 07 May 2010, 17:37
proletarian wrote:
The French didn't do so well in WWI without the help of the US.

The US did shit in the war and didn't join till the last year. They may have tipped the scales in favor of the allies but that was Britain and France's victory.
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The fact is that English saved France's ass when it was on the verge of collapse,and it was before Americans set foot to the continent.
I don't have an issue with Americans,but with your ignorant belief that "you saved France 2 times and beat the Nazis".
It was England in WW1,and it was SU(Operation Bagration around that time) that crushed the Reich,not the over-exploited Normandy...
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Post 07 May 2010, 19:02
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The United States was never formally a member of the Allies but became a self-styled "Associated Power". The United States had a small army, but, after the passage of the Selective Service Act, it drafted four million men and by summer 1918 was sending 10,000 fresh soldiers to France every day. In 1917, the U.S. Congress gave U.S. citizenship to Puerto Ricans when they were drafted to participate in World War I, as part of the Jones Act. Germany had miscalculated, believing it would be many more months before they would arrive and that the arrival could be stopped by U-boats.[93]


By 1918, 90% of the fighting was already over. America can't be credited with anything that could even remotely called "saving France's ass" in either world war because the didn't do shit in Europe until the eleventh hour.

proletarian wrote:
The French didn't do so well in WWI


This had more to do with poor morale. Russia gets the distinction for getting it's ass whipped in that war, internally and externally. Also, it was a frenchman, Ferdinand Foch, who was the supreme commander of the allied forces.

France gets a bad rap militarily. Their lack of success in war probably has something to do with the fact that they are always embroiled in political turmoil that ends up dissolving the country and rebuilding it again. The one time when they genuenly lost the country was when the Nazis invaded which was a foe that Great Britain couldn't beat on its own.


Edit: Who would've thought my 200th post would be in defense of France.
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