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Vietnam Leaders Talk of Transition to Socialism

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Post 29 Mar 2010, 21:41
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Vietnam's communists demand more socialism

The central committee of Vietnam's ruling Communist Party wrapped up its plenary session on Sunday with a call for more socialism in the coming decade.

The party's top leadership, which is laying the groundwork for the 11th Party Congress in 2011, is aiming for annual economic growth of 7 to 8 per cent over the coming five years.

Vietnam is on target to hit the government's 6.5 per cent target for this year.

Addressing the plenary, CPV general secretary Nong Duc Manh declared that by 2020, the "fundamental infrastructure for a socialist economy will be completed, with an appropriate political, ideological and cultural superstructure to serve as a foundation for an ever more prosperous socialist nation."

To this end, Mr Nong said that the efficiency and effectiveness of state administration needs to be enhanced.

He stressed the need to "advance the fight against corruption and waste, strengthen the party's leadership and promote the people's right to mastery over the state apparatus."

Mr Nong said that the party expected Vietnam to be "a modern and socialist-oriented industrial nation between now and mid-century."

Twenty-five years of Doi Moi reforms have served to reduce the role of central planning in the economy, but state-owned firms continue to dominate in key sectors.

The Finance Ministry recently issued a circular providing for price controls on private businesses to fight inflation, indicating that authorities were seeking to reassert control over the economy.

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That sounds like progress.
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Post 29 Mar 2010, 21:44
The 21st century is going to be awesome.
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Post 29 Mar 2010, 21:52
That's very interesting. I've to say that I had almost lost my hopes for Vietnam, but these are really encouraging words.

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Post 29 Mar 2010, 22:01
There's a longer article in the online ENglish language version of the Party newspaper: http://www.nhandan.com.vn/english/news/290310/domestic_ts.htm

I love how the rushed translation actually calls them "Party Elites".
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Post 29 Mar 2010, 22:39
That sounds great. I haven't read much on what Vietnam's plan for socialism is. I've mostly considered it similar to that of the PRC but they hardly talk about socialism and place a lot of emphasis on purely economic development.
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Post 30 Mar 2010, 00:39
This is excellent news. I didn't realise the Left faction of the Vietnam CP had become influential enough to push for reforms on this scale. I'd been thinking that Vietnam might head in a Socialist direction after such reform had begun in China, but if what I read here pans out (and let's be honest it might not. Policies can change) it could be the other way around.

I'll be keeping a close eye on this.
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Post 02 Apr 2010, 12:20
Fundamental infrastructure for a socialist economy will be completed. Yes that is right, but it doesn't mean Vietnam is heading toward socialism (now and after 2020).
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Post 04 Apr 2010, 22:04
Vietnam has enjoyed fast growth rates since the Doi Moi reforms and hopefully it would grow for some time before the inevitable slowdown in growth. They still have a long way to go before developing the infrastructure as their GDP per capita is $2,900 est. 2009 (not the best indicator of living standards but still), far below than that of countries like Guyana, Iraq and Mongolia but this is excellent news.
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Post 18 Apr 2010, 16:18
Yes this is true BUT we don't follow the PRC any more. What they bring to us, which make thousands of our people die each year is enough.
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Post 20 May 2010, 18:59
I can't wait to see how Vietnam changes
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Post 21 May 2010, 02:16
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Yes this is true BUT we don't follow the PRC any more.

From what I understand, PR China and Vietnam have not really been on good terms since Vietnam developed better relations with the USSR and when China and Vietnam had some border skirmishes that escalated into a full-blown war. There have been some closer economic ties in recent years, but I'm not too familiar with what's been happening since.

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What they bring to us, which make thousands of our people die each year is enough.

What exactly do you mean by that? I don't think I follow exactly, and like I said, I'm not too familiar with the dealings between the two countries.
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Post 22 May 2010, 02:42
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What exactly do you mean by that? I don't think I follow exactly, and like I said, I'm not too familiar with the dealings between the two countries.


I would take an educated guess that it is Vietnamese migrant workers who go to the PRC for jobs.
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Post 31 May 2010, 04:18
Though I am not admittedly up to speed with Vietnam, given the inherently Dengist reforms made throughout its existence I have doubts. A revisionist country wishing for socialism seems iffy.

I'm also still not particularly sure of what specifically is to be changed and how socialism will come for Vietnam.
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Post 01 Jun 2010, 16:19
Well it seems to be complicated now. I hope we won't follow China's way.
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Post 02 Jun 2010, 00:54
Haven't you already followed it? Doi Moi seems very much like a Vietnamese version of Deng Xiaoping thought to me
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Post 03 Jun 2010, 17:23
It looks much alike. But it has some differences...
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Post 03 Jun 2010, 17:29
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But it has some differences...


And what would these be?
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Post 17 Jan 2011, 13:05
A few weeks ago, I was in Pretoria, South Africa, for the International Festival of Youth and Students, an worldwide meeting of the international anti-imperialist World Federation of Democratic Youth.
The Vietnamese delegation organised a Conference there in which they stated that "Vietnam is on the road towards Socialism and is marching down that road every single day" and is "implementing Socialism every year a bit more".
This was a very interesting revelation for me, to hear such an honest and frankly, humble speech from a delegate of a nation that has fought over thirty years for its Liberation. According to the Vietnamese delegation, the market reforms were implemented in order to quickly rebuild and advance Vietnam's completely ruined economy, a goal which has been largely accomplished, paving the way for true Socialism to advance.
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