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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 28 Oct 2009, 14:21
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Post 11 Nov 2009, 16:50
Dear Comrades

The literature of the Communist Party of Britain, is of the opinion that Socialism will riseagain in Eastern Europe and Russia. They say that people in Russia have realised that Capitalism has not been the answer that they thought it would be.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 28 Jan 2008, 19:10
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Post 01 Dec 2009, 08:31
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 29 Jan 2006, 20:57
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Post 02 Dec 2009, 07:25
Even if the Communist party got voted in in Russia do you think it would be able to turn around the immense social damage that nearly 20 years of capitalism has done? Russia is a dying country and without a proper workers democracy installed it can only spiral further down. Unfortunately its impossible to establish a workers democracy through palimentary means so only popular Socialist revolution can save Russia now.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Sep 2004, 16:21
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Post 06 Dec 2009, 02:23
CohibaMan wrote:
While I don't think it would be impossible for workers to seize control of their nation again, it would be against enemies far more vicious than Nicholas II and his cronies. We are talking about men who participate in the unconscionable here.

This is untrue. The Tsarist regime was far more brutal and repressive than the current Putin regime in Russia. The Bolsheviks were only able to establish themselves in power by fighting a vicious civil war against reactionary elements of the old regime in which more than 10 million Russians died. Ironically, the very repressiveness of the Tsarist regime had the effect of radicalising the Bolsheviks and hardening their opposition to the regime (an example of dialectics at work - the reaction of the Tsarist regime tended to create its own dialectical opposite). The CPRF has it too easy; this has made them flabby and revisionist.

TheRussianLord wrote:
The Bolsheviks functioned illegally. The CPRF is legal.

There were Bolshevik deputies in the Duma between 1905 and 1917 (three I think). They were even stripped of their parliamentary immunity and exiled to Karelia because they opposed the entry of Russia into the First World War. After the Revolution of 1905, the Bolsheviks operated as a semi-legal organisation; they pursued both parliamentary and extra-parliamentary methods.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Dec 2009, 15:41
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Post 31 Dec 2009, 05:11
I’m not Russian and wasn’t born before the collapse of the USSR, so my idea may have a lot of mistakes, but please read.
I think it’s possible to bring communist back to Russia, furthermore, bring Russia back to its former glory as the USSR. First of all, Russia still has a communist party, and although they placed second, they are still voted. If there are enough propagation, we can definitely make the people believe in Communism again… with suitable background, for example : an attack of the US, the economy going down, a angry policy of the government… we can make another October revolution. Secondly, many Russians are still Soviet. They believe in communism, want the glory back to the USSR, and they hate the US. When I go to youtube and search for the Soviet March – a song composed by an American ! – I can see the American and the Russian arguing non-stop : the hatred between the US and USSR is still strong. Thirdly, Russia has GREAT potential, but because of this government and its stinky policies as well as its leader (Putin, a real joker in my view) the Russians are never statified with their current economic situation. If Communism promises to bring the old USSR back, all Russians will stand up !

That’s my point of view. Sorry for my terrible English.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Oct 2004, 22:04
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Post 01 Jan 2010, 01:51
Hey comrade Rafirudov, nice to have you on the forum. Your English is just fine.

Russians want change, but they are afraid of instability. Everyone remembers the 1990s, and that was several times worse for Russia than the American Great Depression. That`s why Putin remains popular, even as the system his political team holds together slowly stagnates and crumbles. You`re right about the fights being had in many parts of the internet between Russians and Americans, though hate of the USA is not a prerequisite of Russian communism. It`s funny you mention searching for ``Soviet March`` on youtube and finding the Red Alert 3 march -I was just thinking recently about how stupid and insulting that song is.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Dec 2009, 15:41
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Post 01 Jan 2010, 03:26
Yup, Soviet March has a stupid lyric, however its music is incredible.
And, yes, I do hope that Russia will not have to suffer another 1991, but I don't see any other way to create a background for another Bolsevik revolution. Remember, when the October Revolution occurred, Russia was but in a harsh time : the Russian Empire is in danger of losing the World War I. I suggest Russia will have to wait until the people forget 1991 hardship... and Putin gets out of his chair.
Lastly, call me Nikita.
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Post 01 Jan 2010, 19:51
When Russians have forgotten the 1990s, they'll have forgotten socialism as well. It's a question of now or never. And "now" just doesn't probable.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Dec 2009, 15:41
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Post 02 Jan 2010, 08:44
Isn't it our work to propagate communism so it will continue to live on ? And... what if a depression came to Russia ? What if it doesn't ? If a depression came to Russia, people would suffer, and they might rise again like a century ago ? Ironically enough, in my blind eyes, that's the only way.
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Post 04 Jan 2010, 09:33
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It`s funny you mention searching for ``Soviet March`` on youtube and finding the Red Alert 3 march -I was just thinking recently about how stupid and insulting that song is.


What are the lyrics and how is it insulting?
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Post 04 Jan 2010, 14:07
Vodka, Soviet bear in the hunt, conquering the world, the capitalist beware the Soviet justice, their brothers don't have to worry, Soviet Union is the strongest nation in the world, stuff like that.
If you really care, watch this video and find out. It's music is good, yes, but it's lyric somehow shows that the US think the Soviet Union is an empire. Of course they aren't : they're a union.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5q8iMgkg9c
EA's stupid lyric writers wrote:
Наш Coветский Союз покоряет весь мир
Как огромный медведь на Востоке.
Овцы бродят безцельно, без всяких забот
А Советский медведь на охоте.

Наше братство - хорошая жизнь,
Наша щедрость ни с чем не сравнится.
Все кто с нами - сильны
Все кто против, держись
Чтоб нам всем не пришлось потрудится.
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Post 04 Jan 2010, 22:20
The US is a union.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Dec 2009, 15:41
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Post 05 Jan 2010, 07:09
United States of American Empires ?

Let me make this clearer :

According to the West, the US states are united in harmony. They do not have nationalism trouble as in the USSR, where Russia seems to hold the power and other Soviet republics seems to be Russian colonies.
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