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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 31 Mar 2005, 11:14
Pioneer
Post 15 May 2005, 11:06
"Either you're good on earth or you go to hell."

"The bible states that God loves homosexuals."


I've established that Oblisk is a fragging idiot.
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'Permit us to put you before a firing squad for saying that.'
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 04 Aug 2004, 20:49
Embalmed
Post 15 May 2005, 11:59
fire_mat99 wrote:
Where do you get Death penalty for being gay or lesbian or porn..
Your are quoting muslim or what




"Do not lie with a man as you would a woman, for that is detestable" I quote, from the Bible (Old Testament)
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 19 Jul 2004, 16:21
Party Bureaucrat
Post 15 May 2005, 21:48
Richard, when I say that I want to ban churches as institutions I simply mean I wish to stop them from oppressing and misleading people against their will. As I am for people's right to think what they want it would be hypocritical of me to say: Oh, keep up the religion but you can't go to church.
Religious groups should only be allowed tax money from those who activley want to be a member of the church and going a little of topic I really don't think you should be allowed to baptise children before they are old enough to make their own decisions.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 26 Feb 2004, 03:15
Komsomol
Post 16 May 2005, 00:10
It's interesting how religion can inspire some to hold the working class in bondage but can inspire others to lead revolutions. Almost all Mexican revolutionaries are/were devout Christians and were inspired by their beliefs to liberate the people of Mexico; however, on the whole religion is used as a diversion. Not only does organized religion distract people from revolting, but it distracts people from believing in the true God.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 27 Mar 2005, 03:47
Pioneer
Post 16 May 2005, 02:26
Re-read the quote and maybe you'll understand it. All it is saying is that party members MAY NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST SOMEONE BASED ON THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEF.
"Revolution is not a dinner party, not an essay, nor a painting, nor a piece of embroidery; it cannot be advanced softly, gradually, carefully, considerately, respectfully, politely, plainly and modestly."
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 26 Feb 2004, 03:15
Komsomol
Post 16 May 2005, 04:08
Yes I do understand. I'm just saying that I think the topic is interesting.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Dec 2004, 21:26
Komsomol
Post 16 May 2005, 07:03
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Religious groups should only be allowed tax money from those who activley want to be a member of the church and going a little of topic I really don't think you should be allowed to baptise children before they are old enough to make their own decisions.


A person can be baptised at the age of 8 and up. Mormons don't baptise babies because they believe that a baby is not conscious of their sins. Baptism is not just an inniation into the church but to cleanse you of your sins. But as far an age is concerned you can be baptised at 30, there is no a obligation to be baptised at any age, you do it when you're ready.

I've noticed that certain religions are not revolutionary organizations, should we subvert their traditions just because of what we believe is right. Would it be right for them to subvert us when they have power and will to do so? NO, so this is why we can not be hypocrites.
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Not only does organized religion distract people from revolting, but it distracts people from believing in the true God.


YEAH SO LET'S FORGET THAT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT BELIEFS OR INTERESTS THAT DO NOT COINCIDE WITH OURS AND OPPRESS AND REPRESS THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE PEACEFUL AND ARE NOT INTERESTED IN BLOODY FIGHTING FOR OUR AGENDUM.

Religious institutions can co-exist with a communist economy. Trust me when I say that both sides will benefit mutually.
I do not exploit man but I welcome man to exploit that which I'm working on for the greater good of all society. All work should be voluntary, never forced, never rewarded with materialistic things (such as money)and never denied.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Dec 2004, 21:26
Komsomol
Post 16 May 2005, 07:08
This Topic is finished it's proven that the section has been horribly misread by someone most likely to have a capitalist subconscious.
I do not exploit man but I welcome man to exploit that which I'm working on for the greater good of all society. All work should be voluntary, never forced, never rewarded with materialistic things (such as money)and never denied.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 26 Feb 2004, 03:15
Komsomol
Post 18 May 2005, 01:43
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YEAH SO LET'S FORGET THAT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT BELIEFS OR INTERESTS THAT DO NOT COINCIDE WITH OURS AND OPPRESS AND REPRESS THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE PEACEFUL AND ARE NOT INTERESTED IN BLOODY FIGHTING FOR OUR AGENDUM.


Ummm...maybe you need to reread what I wrote. I said that organized religion
distacts people from revolting and seperates them from God. No where did I say that we should oppress and repress anybody. I have no idea where you got all that from. Let's read more carefully before we blow up on someone that we don't know.[/quote]
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 16 Feb 2005, 02:51
Party Bureaucrat
Post 18 May 2005, 02:38
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I wouldn't hate you for that nor even get offended. Its just hypocracy if like i wanted to be in one of those parties and they tell me to get lost for what i am. That is discrimination.


==Communist party does not allow religious people in is not because communist party is a discriminatory and exclusive orgainsation, but because religious believes will hinder the effectiveness of party members in the course of the revolution as religion contradicts the materialist view of the world of communists.

For example, you are a dope smoker so the army tells you to get lost, would you consider the army to be a dicriminatory and exclusive organisation?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Dec 2004, 21:26
Komsomol
Post 18 May 2005, 02:42
touche, but what do you mean by one true god? there are so many religions that believe in different gods, some are polytheistic and some are monotheistic.

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It's interesting how religion can inspire some to hold the working class in bondage but can inspire others to lead revolutions. Almost all Mexican revolutionaries are/were devout Christians and were inspired by their beliefs to liberate the people of Mexico; however, on the whole religion is used as a diversion. Not only does organized religion distract people from revolting, but it distracts people from believing in the true God.


Religion does not hold the working class in bondage, if anything they encourage people not to work. For instance on sundays, where it is a sin to buy or sell anything you can't sell becaue you're not supposed to work, and you don't buy because you indirectly encourage or force others to work. I spoke to some elder about communism, and they said that it is the ideal society, they even go as far as to say that it will occur when Jesus returns to the earth(althought they don't call it communism in the bible or the book of mormon). If you read about the past you'll find that many religious organizations have established primitive forms of communism. So to say that these people impede the revolution is incorrect if anything most of them encourage it, just not in the violent way some of us think it should happen.
I do not exploit man but I welcome man to exploit that which I'm working on for the greater good of all society. All work should be voluntary, never forced, never rewarded with materialistic things (such as money)and never denied.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 26 Feb 2004, 03:15
Komsomol
Post 18 May 2005, 03:14
The one true God is His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie I. And yes religion can hold the working class in bondage. I didn't say that it always does, but it can. Hitler used religion to justify the improsonment and execution of Jews. That's religion being used to hold the working class in bondage. And tell your elder that Christ has returned in the form of His Majesty.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Dec 2004, 21:26
Komsomol
Post 18 May 2005, 03:38
Rastaman33 wrote:
The one true God is His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie I. And yes religion can hold the working class in bondage. I didn't say that it always does, but it can. Hitler used religion to justify the improsonment and execution of Jews. That's religion being used to hold the working class in bondage. And tell your elder that Christ has returned in the form of His Majesty.


I don't think they will believe that because there would be a mass consciousness of his return. Who is this Slassie I you speak of anyways. There really is no point in mentioning him if you're not going to elaborate or provide more information about him. It might make you seem like a lunatic.
I do not exploit man but I welcome man to exploit that which I'm working on for the greater good of all society. All work should be voluntary, never forced, never rewarded with materialistic things (such as money)and never denied.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 26 Feb 2004, 03:15
Komsomol
Post 18 May 2005, 03:45
Selassie is the Lord. He is the King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, 225th ruler in the line of David. He is decended from the Queen of Sheba and King Solomon. http://history.acusd.edu/gen/text/selassie.html read for more info.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 19 Jul 2004, 16:21
Party Bureaucrat
Post 18 May 2005, 20:58
Haile Selassie is not god.

Marx is.
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The future belongs to those of us still willing to get our hands dirty!
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 26 Feb 2004, 03:15
Komsomol
Post 19 May 2005, 03:12
I'm afraid you're sadly mistaken comrade.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 19 Jul 2004, 16:21
Party Bureaucrat
Post 19 May 2005, 08:23
No, I'm kidding around. In my opinion you are mistaken as there is no god. However if you believe so then of course you are entitled to your opinion.
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The future belongs to those of us still willing to get our hands dirty!
-Kaptn K
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 26 Feb 2004, 03:15
Komsomol
Post 21 May 2005, 21:56
And now we can put this thread to rest.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 09 Sep 2005, 04:10
New Comrade (Say hi & be nice to me!)
Post 18 Sep 2005, 02:39
Whats with all these modern communists and marxists not studying materialism anymore?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 06 Apr 2005, 02:28
Unperson
Post 18 Sep 2005, 05:09
In BC members Graduate from the YCL into the Party. And its not open doors, not anyone can just enter the party they need to be grounded in marxism-leninism. The Party requires a level of discipline as well.
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