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Will there be another USSR in the future?

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Dec 2004, 03:55
Pioneer
Post 18 Dec 2004, 04:06
Well lets just say as in my bloodline i propose a plan to take back what is rightfully mine. And i have done my history and will not make the same mistake as previous preseccesors. Soviet 4 is our names dont frget it..
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Nov 2004, 00:40
Komsomol
Post 19 Dec 2004, 01:59
Dont worry comrades, when the revolution is at hand, we will all be there to help overthrow the capitalist ways!!
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Dec 2004, 03:55
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Post 19 Dec 2004, 02:44
A revolution is at hand. and most of all we have the money. Let us rise up against the capitalist ways and fight for our forefathers. Lenin. we shall make his dream come true and rid the world of capitalism..
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Nov 2004, 00:40
Komsomol
Post 21 Dec 2004, 04:08
Yes that is how it should be, how could Gorbachev let Lenins dream fall apart...that is so sad...
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 21 Dec 2004, 19:23
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Post 21 Dec 2004, 19:36
Well Gorbachev believes that the return of a Soviet Union (hopefully a Soviet Union and not a Russian Empire created out of extreme ethnic nationalism) for better or for worse. I also agree with Gorbachev that the Soviet Union still exists in some ways (not politically).
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Nov 2004, 00:40
Komsomol
Post 23 Dec 2004, 01:49
yes very true, the USSR still has many followers, because it was the best givernment Russia ever had
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Dec 2004, 03:55
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Post 23 Dec 2004, 03:37
There are a lot of ussr suppoters just have to fond them all. The ussr still exist but the fear of the u.s stepping in because now the russia is a democratic nation the u.s supports them.
Most people talk, few are up for the moment.

"Let the red star shine brightly over Russia once again"

Ein schrei wird zum himmel fahren
schneidet sich durch engelscharen
vom wolkendach fallt federfleich
auf meine kindheit mit gekreich.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 06 Mar 2003, 19:17
Komsomol
Post 23 Dec 2004, 05:40
You Can't have Russia and Democratic in the same sentence. Russia is an oligarchy controlled by putin and his capitalist associates! They where never and will never be democratic! Else we would already have another USSR!
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Dec 2004, 03:55
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Post 23 Dec 2004, 05:46
alright so ive been behind on my readings. The fact remains the U.S supports them. but the U.S is at war so maybe that could stop them... I need to find something that says that other nations cant interfer with revolutions.....
Most people talk, few are up for the moment.

"Let the red star shine brightly over Russia once again"

Ein schrei wird zum himmel fahren
schneidet sich durch engelscharen
vom wolkendach fallt federfleich
auf meine kindheit mit gekreich.
Soviet cogitations: 575
Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Nov 2004, 00:40
Komsomol
Post 24 Dec 2004, 17:06
The US would most likely intervine if their would be a revolution in Russia, but they might not, they might just be at the sidelines giveing them support, like guns and ammo, but the US has "bigger" fish to fry like Iraq, and the "big" north korea "problem"
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 23 Feb 2004, 22:46
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Post 24 Dec 2004, 22:03
I don't think that the next socialist revolution in Russia necessarily will have to take the form of restoring the USSR. It really depends on how the revolutions in the other former Soviet republics turn out, and whether these new socialist states will want to consolidate into such an alliance. Obviously, the new socialist state in Russia shouldn't impose socialism on the other former Soviet republics, but should instead work to support each seperate revolutionary struggle in each country...

But who knows how it might pan out?
Comrade Andrei Mazenov
2007 Winner of Soviet-Empire's A View to Kilt Award

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Dec 2004, 03:55
Pioneer
Post 24 Dec 2004, 22:05
one can only try and hope for the best.
Most people talk, few are up for the moment.

"Let the red star shine brightly over Russia once again"

Ein schrei wird zum himmel fahren
schneidet sich durch engelscharen
vom wolkendach fallt federfleich
auf meine kindheit mit gekreich.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 22 Jun 2004, 21:01
Komsomol
Post 24 Dec 2004, 22:17
With Putin asserting further direct power for himself, I think it’s only a matter of time before there’s another revolution. According to these statistics few people in Russia agree with the country’s current path. But the nature of that revolution could be one of many. It could very well be Socialist; I’ve heard there’s a lot of support for a reincarnated USSR, but I seriously doubt a new Socialist Russia would be like the USSR.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Dec 2004, 03:55
Pioneer
Post 24 Dec 2004, 22:34
Well what would they call it? -news program-"here in top headlines Russia goes through a revolution and Putins was overthrown and they call themselves The new soviet union... Come on it will be most likely the ussr/cccp..
Most people talk, few are up for the moment.

"Let the red star shine brightly over Russia once again"

Ein schrei wird zum himmel fahren
schneidet sich durch engelscharen
vom wolkendach fallt federfleich
auf meine kindheit mit gekreich.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 22 Jun 2004, 21:01
Komsomol
Post 24 Dec 2004, 23:03
Calling yourselves the new Soviet Union and being like the Soviet Union was are two different things entirely.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Dec 2004, 03:55
Pioneer
Post 24 Dec 2004, 23:05
how is it different?
Most people talk, few are up for the moment.

"Let the red star shine brightly over Russia once again"

Ein schrei wird zum himmel fahren
schneidet sich durch engelscharen
vom wolkendach fallt federfleich
auf meine kindheit mit gekreich.
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Soviet cogitations: 844
Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 22 Jun 2004, 21:01
Komsomol
Post 24 Dec 2004, 23:11
If a Fascist government was to take control, they could call themselves the new Soviet Union to say, take advantage of Nationalism, but that doesn’t exactly make it like the Soviet Union now does it? Even if the new government is Socialist and calls itself the Soviet Union, there may still be differences from the previous one.

How it is set up for one, for instance old USSR towards the end was hardly Socialist, so if it was Socialist it’d be different there. Also as Mazenov said, it really wouldn’t be a ‘Union of Soviet Socialist Republics’ if you can’t get some of the former SSRs back. You might get a few if they revolt as well, but don’t count on all of them coming back by a long shot.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Dec 2004, 03:55
Pioneer
Post 24 Dec 2004, 23:19
Thing is a facist government would highly unlikely call theselve cccp because one it would be very redundant. second you could adopt the original constitution and abide by it. yes everything changes but you cant change the idea.
Most people talk, few are up for the moment.

"Let the red star shine brightly over Russia once again"

Ein schrei wird zum himmel fahren
schneidet sich durch engelscharen
vom wolkendach fallt federfleich
auf meine kindheit mit gekreich.
User avatar
Soviet cogitations: 844
Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 22 Jun 2004, 21:01
Komsomol
Post 24 Dec 2004, 23:29
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Thing is a facist government would highly unlikely call theselve cccp because one it would be very redundant.

If this is true, then I believe you just refuted your own previous claim that ‘a new government would certainly call themselves USSR.’ Since you don’t know what kind of government could take over, the new name could be one of many, you don’t know for sure. But yes, a Fascist government could call themselves that; content doesn’t matter to them if they want to create a façade. Since Russia was at its strongest during the Soviet Union, it isn’t really to hard to figure out that they may be Nostalgic towards the Soviet Union.

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second you could adopt the original constitution and abide by it.

Constitution depends on the government being installed. Yes, this could happen, but that doesn’t mean it must happen.

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yes everything changes but you cant change the idea.

If they have power, they most certainly can. Just ask Gorbachev or Khrushchev if you don’t believe me.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Dec 2004, 03:55
Pioneer
Post 25 Dec 2004, 00:29
Ahh but a new communist government would most likey reform the former ussr and its constitution written by lenin. Gorbachev and Khrushchev were highly capitalist so to ask them would be pointless because they werent true communist.
Most people talk, few are up for the moment.

"Let the red star shine brightly over Russia once again"

Ein schrei wird zum himmel fahren
schneidet sich durch engelscharen
vom wolkendach fallt federfleich
auf meine kindheit mit gekreich.
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