How Important was the Lend-Lease Program

Sorry guys, I was busy.

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Heres some proff about the Soviet Union giving Nazi Germany Grain, right before the Great Patriotic War.

http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1939/oct39/24oct39.htm

They write:

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In Moscow... A Soviet-German trade agreement is signed. The USSR agrees to supply 1 million tonnes of grain and fodder to Germany. Meanwhile, the Finnish delegation leaves to consult with their government on new proposals put forward by the Soviet government, concerning boundary revisions.

And? Any proof? Reference? Names? Documents?

HOW DO YOU SUPPOSE I NEED TO DISPROVE SOMETHING THAT HAS NO REFERENCE IN IT???

How is it different from "Elvis is found in Siberia"?

Same stuff.

Okay some more websites then:

http://www.o5m6.de/sources.html

http://www.ww2pacific.com/lendlease.html

All though not important in 1943, the lend-lease program did help the Soviet Union tremendously in the early years, you can't deny this Chernobog. If the lend-lease program wasn't important why is it on the day of the invasion (or month, I forget) that Stalin was yelling out for help from Great Britain and the US?

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k that still dosen't get to the hole point of this that the lend-lease program was indeed important for the USSR, in the ealiy stages of the War.

The Lend-Lease program obviously had its advantages for all the allies, but it mainly supported Britain and the Soviet Union basically got all the leftovers, which didn't matter much.

First sorry Siberian Fox, i usally look over my posts later to correct them, if there is anything to be corrected.

Second the Lend-Lease program had alot of advantages for the Soviet Union, like did you know enoff food was sent to the Soviet Union to feed the Red Army, for 5 years, this was indeed important because most of the food producing areas of the Soviet Union where under German control, also the Soviets got plenty of other eqieqment important to the War effort, with out this eqieqment the Soviet Union would have to produce them its self taking production off of tanks,guns,etc.

Lend-Lease aid didn't really pick up until well after Soviet industrial production was set up beyond the Urals and got into high gear....so overall, aside from drawing U-boats away from the much more vital USA/Canada-Britain routes, Lend-Lease didn't have much effect on the eventual outcome of the war. It's greatest impact was providing the Soviet Union with competitive fighters at a time when there modern fightercraft were scarce along the frontlines for the Red Air Force.

After the end of the war, the US requested that all of their equipment be returned to them. Stalin and the other Soviet leadership put up a fight about this. In the end, the equipment that was returned, was destroyed right in front of the soilders who had used it.

Czechman and Cloutierfan can you provide links that proff that The Lend-Lease program was not important, and that the equipment was returned to the US, i thought the Soviet had to pay for the equipment that is that first time ever hearing about it, and clouterifan i already explained how the lend-lease program was important to the USSR would you take the time to read the posts in the subject and read the links, rather then just going on stating something.

I have read the entire thread, =soviet=, and it's mostly just mindless flaming/trolling by you and another poster. I saw it necessary to get the thread back on track. You were just continually rambling about how Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia exchanged goods before the war. You made no mention of aircraft, as I did.

I will look for the link where I found it. But that does not mean, that I will find it. Why do we not ask Chern about this in the mean time. If I find the link, I will post it.

i think Chern is gone never answeard these posts in ever?

Quote= Lend-Lease didn't have much effect on the eventual outcome of the war. It's greatest impact was providing the Soviet Union with competitive fighters at a time when there modern fightercraft were scarce along the frontlines for the Red Air Force.

- How is that a refernce, all you say is they they gave them fighters you din't say how many, you never said the names of the fighters, and i made no mention of aircraft because the Soviet Union had there own creat aircraft and lots of them.

You want me to post sources? OK, but it's not a web site, it's a book.

"The Russians received almost 5,000 P-39s as lend-lease aid from the U.S." - pp 139

"With the June date for Bagration nearing, and with Soviet factories now producing nearly 3,300 planes a month, air commanders now had at their disposal 13,428 mostly modern machines, including 8,798 combat aircraft assigned to frontline armies. Also appearing on the awesome inventory were 10,862 planes of American design and manufacture, shipped at much sacrifice to the Soviet Union as part of the lend-lease program begun in 1941." - pp 151

The Soviet Air Force at War
Time-Life Books, 1983
Russell Miller

If you really so care as to dispute my sources, go to your local public library. This series of books are remarkably common throughout the western world.

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i never said that the american lend-lease was not important i just wanted to c links that can "prove" what you say. I Have no doupt that America sent some good plains there, but they sent way more importaner things like boots,food,radios,etc abone etc.

The only things I've ever heard contributed to the Soviets in the Lend-Lease program were some aircraft and an assortment of armored vehicles. By the time the Lend-Lease program was at its hieght for them, Soviet production was already up to speed and possibly the fast production of any country in the war.

Soviet production was focused on tanks,Aircraft,and Guns, so what the Western Allies sent the Soviet Union was important and did help alot.

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Soviet production was focused on tanks,Aircraft,and Guns, so what the Western Allies sent the Soviet Union was important and did help alot.

This is very true, especially during the first years of the war. Many of the Soviet airplanes that were first built during the first year or so, were built in the US.

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Soviet production was focused on tanks,Aircraft,and Guns, so what the Western Allies sent the Soviet Union was important and did help alot.

What good is obsolete equipment? The Soviets wanted raw materials since American tanks and guns were all obsolete, compared to Soviet tanks. I posted you a link of Soviet tanks before, so you are a troll who spam’s and ignores facts. Trucks were the biggest asset the Soviets received from the Western Allies.

Yeah trucks where the biggest asset the western allies sent and i know the tanks and Aircraft the western allies sent where pretty usless but that no what iam talking about you know you need more then tanks and planes to win a war.