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 10 Jun 2004, 20:01
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Any members here? I was curious to talk to someone who was a member and to find out what they thought of the group. Any insight would be vastly appreciated. "The death of one man is a tragedy...the death of millions is a statistic!" -I.V. Stalin
10 Jun 2004, 20:31
where is this party from? USA?
 10 Jun 2004, 20:32
by the way the word is Kalashnikov not Kalishnikov (referring top ur webpage above the USA mao with the comunist sign)
10 Jun 2004, 20:34
We know its misspelled. Alot of people don't even know the correct spelling anyway, especially in the USA Midwest. Anyway, even with the misspelling, its still pretty recognizable (a websearch yields thousands of hits for that spelling.)
As for the PLP, I believe they are US based, but they seem to be pushing pretty hard for internationalism. "The death of one man is a tragedy...the death of millions is a statistic!" -I.V. Stalin
10 Jun 2004, 20:37
ok
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 02 Mar 2004, 15:19 Ideology: Democratic Socialism Old Bolshevik 10 Jun 2004, 20:52
I've researched that party a little bit. The Progressive Labor Party of America. They are almost Stalinist to the point of deification. Much like the former leader of Albania. They don't believe in participating in elections, it has to be a militant revolution with them. I disagree with them on several points.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 16 Jun 2004, 17:30 Politburo 10 Jun 2004, 20:55
I agree somewhat with what they say...
...However, I don't think I buy the idea of skipping from capitalism directly in to communism. I think you're still going to need socialism. From a dielectic point of view, I just don't see this as a terribly legitimate thing to do. They argue some obvious problems that exist with socialism, but I think that's cause for reforming socialism instead of scrapping it altogether. -TIG Alis Volat Propriis; Tiocfaidh Ar La; Proletarier Aller Länder, Vereinigt Euch!
 10 Jun 2004, 20:58
That was one thing I did like about them: the fact that they want a revolution in the near future, and that they are not afraid to use militant tactics to promote Communism. I don't necessarily agree with all that they spout; alot of it I recognize as pure propaganda. Plus, I like their views better than the CP of America.
Any alternatives to these parties in the USA? Or am I going to have to remain a lone agitator? "The death of one man is a tragedy...the death of millions is a statistic!" -I.V. Stalin
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 02 Mar 2004, 15:19 Ideology: Democratic Socialism Old Bolshevik 10 Jun 2004, 21:01
Fitzy wrote: 10 Jun 2004, 21:33
You down with PLP?
Yeah, you know me! New Yorkers speak louder than words....
Sovetski Soyuz Socialisticheski Respublic! 10 Jun 2004, 22:58
just a bunch of Maoist/Stalinist nuts.
 Goranhammer... blessed be his name. May his memory live in our hearts and touch our souls like a strawberry tampon enema
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 16 Jun 2004, 17:30 Politburo 10 Jun 2004, 23:34
Not much to offer in the US.
I feel voting, in general, is like having a kithcen knife when your opponent has a machine gun; it's a shitty slot, but you might as well try to defend yourself with it (while working on another solution in your head anyway). I thought about joining the Socialist Action Party but didnt. I joined the Democratic Party 1) Vote twice as much if you're a Dem or a Rep 2) Can 'hold the party hostage' still by voting for other parties in an attempt to pull the DNC leftward 3) Opposes the Republicans, who in honesty, are more evil And perhaps most imporantly 4) None of the US socialist parties speak to me at all. They are either too Stalinst or they're too hippyish. That leaves a hell of a lot of room to fill. Thus, at least on paper, I'm going to side with the party of Jefferson - until I can weild more force myself. -TIG Alis Volat Propriis; Tiocfaidh Ar La; Proletarier Aller Länder, Vereinigt Euch!
11 Jun 2004, 01:48
i would like to create my own political party
other then that i would probbobly alein myself to one of the socialist parties (i didnt look at all of them) The revolucion will come to amerika and i will be there awaiting it
 There is a little bit of Che in all of us -reh reh , red revolucion FREE MUMIA 11 Jun 2004, 01:52
Such a movement is good for the third world, their transition from capitalism to communism can only be good, they truly have nothing to lose.
Yet for the citizen of a capitalist imperialist nation, like most of us, it would mean to a loss in prosperity, as most of the wealth the capitalism generates towards its first world headquarters, derives from third world exploitation. Hence, I can only appreciate such a party, yet they need to focus their need to the 3rd world and not the 1st. Us first world people need to support their struggle, and oppose when our governments try to go in and crush their socialist movements. Truth, Honour, Compassion, Fairness!
11 Jun 2004, 01:54
i like the workers party
The revolucion will come to amerika and i will be there awaiting it
There is a little bit of Che in all of us -reh reh , red revolucion FREE MUMIA 11 Jun 2004, 02:04
wheelchairman wrote: There are at least 25 leftist partys. Thats bad. They all must unite and follow one path. Path of communism. At the and they all want the same.This way, there is no progress.  Victory to communism!!! 26 May 2005, 04:40
I personally find them interesting, I like them. They can get out there sometimes but thats the nature of something like that isnt it?
03 Jul 2005, 05:10
They took the line that all nationalism was counter-revolutionary, denying the need for liberalion movements in the 3rd world wiht a national chacter. They betrayed the BPP and NLF and many others in my opinion.
They also have anarchist idea about "going straight to communism".. Like most 1st world parties they are chauvinists..  05 Sep 2005, 07:40
Going straight to communisim doesnt seem that bad to me, if we are going to fight why not fight directly for what we want instead of fighting for the level down from what we want.
05 Sep 2005, 08:05
What you said is just like saying let’s send someone into space without testing our rockets or life support system or give a patient a new medication without doing some test on animals etc.
Sudden change will result in utter failure. Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting.
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