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 01 Mar 2004, 10:15
Here in Greece, the Socialist party is moving a bit right (now it is more correct to say liberal party). The Communist Party of Greece (KKE) is attempting to take its place to gain more support. Okay, not EXCACTLY the same place. What is your opinion to that?
 
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 23 Feb 2004, 22:46 Party Member 01 Mar 2004, 11:44
Well most people support capitalism at this time, does that mean communist parties should become pro-capitalist to "gain more support"? I think that's the wrong approach, and I think the KKE's move to the right sounds very sell-outish.
Comrade Andrei Mazenov
2007 Winner of Soviet-Empire's A View to Kilt Award  02 Mar 2004, 12:36
well maybe. but i mean instead of a bit far-left it comes more to the center than to the right. i said it wrong. And listen to this funny thing: I am watching something about LA.O.S. (People's Orthodox Alarm), a far-right party, talking about giving poor money! Now THAT is shit... And the KKE is becoming more popular, and I hope it gains again a 17% of the votes (like 1981!) I am gonna find some posters of KKE and present them here.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 02 Mar 2004, 15:19 Ideology: Other Leftist Old Bolshevik 04 Mar 2004, 14:38
Never trade in your beliefs to gain popular support. Then you might as well just have one large centrist party.
If you remember, Lenin's party never compromised it's beliefs (speaking purely before the bolshevik revolution). 04 Mar 2004, 14:45
it doesnt tradew its beliefs.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 02 Mar 2004, 15:19 Ideology: Other Leftist Old Bolshevik 04 Mar 2004, 14:46
Oh no, so moving towards the right will just be a change purely in name then.
04 Mar 2004, 14:47
*correction*
officially becomes socialist. The party that was at that place till now is the Panhellenic Socialist Movement - PASOK 04 Mar 2004, 14:54
Socialist as in the socialdemocratic international, and their so-called "mixed-system" which never touches the big business stuff?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 02 Mar 2004, 15:19 Ideology: Other Leftist Old Bolshevik 04 Mar 2004, 14:55
ah so my attempt at irony was basically true. depressing.
 Fitzy wrote: 04 Mar 2004, 14:56
socialist-capitalist......dont know how
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 02 Mar 2004, 15:19 Ideology: Other Leftist Old Bolshevik 04 Mar 2004, 15:14
otherwise the modern equivalents of those social quacks Engels referred to in..."Yet, when it was written, we could not have called it a _socialist_ manifesto. By Socialists, in 1847, were understood, on the one hand the adherents of the various Utopian systems: Owenites in England, Fourierists in France, both of them already reduced to the position of mere sects, and gradually dying out; on the other hand, the most multifarious social quacks who, by all manner of tinkering, professed to redress, without any danger to capital and profit, all sorts of social grievances,"
source: http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=28 Fitzy wrote: |
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