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In search of a revoutionary party in Canada

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Jul 2011, 21:42
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Post 14 Jul 2011, 03:31
Greetings comrades

Im looking for a Party or organization in Canada with the following prefrences

1. The party is active in training the youth and has alot of young members

2. Has a Marxist-Leninist or possibly Maoist tendencies (Though a party with other tendencies containing the other prefrences in fine)

3. The party is active in rallies and protests
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 16 May 2011, 03:16
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Post 15 Jul 2011, 00:46
Well the LLCO has members in Canada.

It grows from the Maoist tradition and it is not only dedicated to training the youth, who are the future leaders of the revolution. But it is a youth lead and dominated organization. The liberation of the youth is key in the platform of the LLCO.

As to being active in rallies and protests, that is up to each LLCO group to decide if that is the way they want to go based on their local conditions. We are in a period of learning and experimentation. If a comrade or group of comrades feels that the best way to gain attention, cadre, and resources in their area is to work in the activist scene, then we encourage it. We support whatever work comrades do that contributes to the primary task of the organization.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Jul 2011, 21:42
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Post 15 Jul 2011, 04:53
I have a few fundemental disagreemants with the LLCO though I do sythmathize with the party
I escpecially Like there role in training youth
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Post 15 Jul 2011, 06:09
What are your disagreements? We can discuss them here if you'd like?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Jul 2011, 21:42
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Post 15 Jul 2011, 07:08
Well its quite fundemental i dont belive all first world workers are treated great and are bougiouse my father has 3 kids works 2 jobs and my mother has a job, and its very hard to keep up with payments Our healthcare system is getting progressivly worse as time goes by theyve closed down the only sico ward in Missisauga a city of around 700,000 theres areas of this city with around 58% unemployment and this is one of the richest first world countries I find it so fragged up I look at Cuba a 3rd world country with a far better healthcare and education system then us WHILE PUTTING UP WITH THE EMBARGO its amazing and I think alot of Cuban policies would improve life for alot of people even here in Canada and things are getting worse progressively. I agree with Mao on the idea that class struggle isnt only limited to Proletariat and Bougiouse but is also rich countries against poor countries but the 3rd worlddist stance of western workers bing nothing more then bougiouse to extreme and I also find the idea that everyone cant eat like a 1st worlder is social darwinist and sounds a little Adam Smith to me the idea that world reasources are too scarce for everyone to live well is social darwinsim Im not saying that the west isnt execivly materialistic I just dont think there bougiouse (though I acknowlege the conditions of my family is nothing compared to what people face in the 1st world)
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 16 May 2011, 03:16
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Post 15 Jul 2011, 17:41
I understand your issues with LLC.

But on the social darwinist issue I need to step in. While I am for raising living standards for the proletariat and other exploited classes. But we can see right before our very eyes that the lifestyle lived by the FW is destroying the Earth, our common home, right now. We cannot seriously expect to bring the entire world to the lifestyle of the FW. It simply is not ecologically possible. Leading Light Communism puts science in command, and science is showing that the FW lifestyle is destroying the Earth.

As Mao once said when the Japanese Imperialists invaded China: "How can we speak of Communism if we are robbed of a country in which to build it?"
The same can be argued here: How can we speak of Communism if we are robbed of a planet on which to build it.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Jul 2011, 21:42
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Post 15 Jul 2011, 17:44
I realize that but I think theres a tendency in 3rd worldism to overplay the role of the comman westerner in Bougiouse imperialism I think westerners have a major problem with exessive materialismwhich need to be ended but i think in many ways we still stand to gain from Socialism like I said earlier about how Socialist polocies would improve life for my family and the poeple around us
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Post 15 Jul 2011, 17:55
Below is an article by the LLCO on the benefits of Leading Light Communism for FWers. Hopefully this helps clear some things up, let me know.

Quote:
Will First Worlders benefit from socialism?

(llco.org)

“Dear Leading Light,

Will First Worlders benefit at all from socialism?”



Thank you for writing.

Socialism will lead to a lower-material standard of living for First World peoples. First World peoples earn many times more than the value of their labor. They earn many times more than an egalitarian, socialist distribution worldwide would entail. First World populations get more than their share of the pie. They live off the labor of the Third World. Under socialism, First World populations will have to give up their privileges, their lives of luxury, based on extracting super-profits from the Third World. The New Power of the Leading Light will rule over the First World until First World populations can live as contributing members of global society. Here are some positive things that the New Power of the Leading Light has to offer First Worlders:

1. Healthier lives. Even though socialism will entail a drop in the overall standard of living of peoples of the First World, in some ways life will improve for First World populations under socialism. With socialism, the capitalist food industries will not be free to control the diets of the population. First World peoples, generally, do not want for food. However, the food they consume can be extremely unhealthy. This is especially true of fast food and snacks. This has led to some of the highest obesity rates in the world being amongst First World populations. This situation won’t be allowed to exist under socialism. People will come before profits under socialism. Thus science will govern the dietary choices that people have available to them. In addition, socialism will encourage and may even require exercise as part of the work or school day. Time at work or at school may be allocated for an exercise regimen. In addition, people will receive health care under socialism. Health care should be considered a human right under socialism. Thus First World population, even though materially poorer, will generally lead healthier lives. A healthy population is a happier one.

2. Meaningful lives. Maoists in China thought that people could change. Maoists had a strong belief in people power. Under the Maoists, Chinese society was seen as a giant school of Maoism that had many elaborate practices that all aimed to educate and remold the entire population, both friends and enemies. These elaborate measures ran the range from criticism and self-criticism before the masses to Mao Zedong Thought teams and classes to labor and prison reform. In labor reform, people were sent to do hard work alongside the masses to be humbled and to learn. This was often the prescription for communist cadres who had acted as high-handed bureaucrats toward the people. Such cadres were sent to the countryside to be humbled, to learn of the plight of the masses, and to learn from them. This practice was an old one, it pre-dated the Cultural Revolution. It went at least back to the Great Leap Forward in the late 1950s. It was also practiced, with limited success, during campaigns such as the Socialist Education Movement prior to the Cultural Revolution. However, the Cultural Revolution raised this practice to new levels. An entire system of May 7th cadre schools were set up at the height of the Cultural Revolution as part of the process of rehabilitating and remolding cadres through labor. In addition, an entire generation of red guards was sent down to learn from the peasantry from 1968 onward. Many of these red guards would participate in the radical push to reestablish the collective economy of the countryside from 1968 to 1970. Just as those who needed to be humbled and reeducated were sent to the Chinese countryside, First Worlders might also be sent to the “global countryside,” the Third World, to do work for and alongside the truly oppressed. This hypothetical process need not be one that is seen as punishment. Rather, this hypothetical process will be one that ends the empty, decadent, and often boring and dreary lives of First Worlders. Instead, First Worlders will be sent on an adventure to reinvent themselves alongside the masses of the Third World. What is more exciting than self-reinvention and creating a whole new, just world? Capitalism limits the horizons of people, socialism will open First Worlders up to new possibilities. What is considered the good life should not be endless consumption, it should be a life of adventure, excitement, creativity, and doing good by humanity. Capitalism offers meaninglessness. Socialism offers meaning.

3. A future. The First World way of life is not sustainable. If First World populations continue to live as they do, then they will not only destroy themselves but also the entire planet. Socialism entails a more sustainable, balanced relationship between man and nature. Capitalism ensures a future that is an ecological hell. Socialism ensures that future generations will be happy and prosperous.

4. Peace. Capitalism is a system that has generated countless wars for profit. Many First World people die in these wars. The worst wars of this century were intra-imperialist wars, both World War 1 and 2 killed tens of millions, including many First World peoples. Socialism will guarantee that nobody will die in a war over profit. Nobody will die to maintain a class of parasites. Nobody will die in this senseless way. Socialism will provide peace from imperialist war.

Unfortunately, these benefits of socialism do not establish First World peoples as a social base for revolution. First World peoples are, and will continue to be, the most reactionary populations in the world for the time being. However, socialism is not about punishment, it is about liberation. However, we cannot let sentimentalism stand in our way from setting the world right. Let there be no mistake, liberation of humanity will entail the destruction of the First World way of life. In the end, in the long run, this will even be good for First World peoples themselves.


http://llco.org/will-first-worlders-benefit-from-socialism
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Jul 2011, 21:42
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Post 15 Jul 2011, 18:01
Yeah i already read that good article I read it when you referd me to yyour the the leading light webstie last weed comrade (:
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Jan 2010, 05:46
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Post 18 Jul 2011, 05:44
I think the Communist Party of Canada (Marxists-Leninist) is a Maoists/Hoxhaists party. Or at least they are an anti-revisionists M-L party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_ ... a_(Marxist–Leninist)

http://www.mlpc.ca/
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 19 Mar 2012, 00:06
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Post 23 Mar 2012, 00:28
The Communist Party of Canada (Moscow or Cuban oriented) tows the same party line as the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) and does not oppose the legitimation of the Maoist Communist Party of Canada. Those who divide them with their own original distinctions want to divide the communist parties of Canada. The Marxist Leninist was organized with the aim of rounding up agent provocateurs who surely would choose Marxist Leninist together with their liquidationist intentions for the Communist Party of Canada (Moscow or Cuban oriented). Whether RCMPs choose the CPC or Marxist Leninnist, their pangs and horns shall protrude somehow and some way. We promote and subscribe allegiance to the Chairman of the Communist Party of Canada, Miguel Figueroa, right or wrong, to keep right when right, to set right when wrong, MIGUEL FIGUEROA, right or wwrong FIGHT!!!..
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