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For a new Comintern

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 22 Oct 2004, 15:15
Ideology: Marxism-Leninism
Post 28 Apr 2012, 19:57
The IMCWP is relevant, as is the ICS in Brussels. Both of them were started on the initiative of parties that, each in their own way, have very relevant insights for all of us. It is also a good thing that there is now the International Communist Review.

I just don't think that a new "Comintern" can be made out of either or both of these yet, or out of any other configuration of parties. What would be the point? Either you include just about all parties, making it a completely opportunist "Comintern" just for the hell of it; or you make a very specific list of things that all parties should adhere to so that it becomes like all the doctrinaire Trotskyist "internationals".

It works much better to have slightly more loose meetings and conferences like the ones that exist already, because they do not necessitate some kind of international platform or common ideological framework that is simply not realistic right now. What is the point of having a Comintern when it includes 4 Russian parties, 2 British ones, 2 Danish ones (who are only distinguished by having different prepositions in their names), 2 Spanish ones, etc. Are there going to be 4 different sections of the Comintern in Russia?

It's also absolutely mental to suggest that a new Comintern should be oriented towards the CPRF. How can anyone put themselves "under the guidance" internationally of a party that does not seem interested in internationalism of any kind apart from non-class-oriented anti-US imperialism. Engaging the CPRF seriously is essential, turning them into an ideological guide for all of us is criminally insane. That's why the existing meetings are great, but a highly centralised Comintern is a bad idea.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 17 May 2012, 00:16
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Post 17 May 2012, 02:56
Why does one countries party have to "be the leading party"? Why can it not be ran democratically all parties in all countries equal?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 May 2012, 00:32
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Post 30 May 2012, 05:56
The subject is definitely coming up to discussion inside the international communist movement and in some places.

It is still very very early in this process - just mentioned on some occasions by some forces.

The International Meetings of Communist and Workers Parties are the main arena for developing the conditions for a more serious debate on the subject.

Efforts are in place to re-group, re-organise and re-vitalize the International Communist Movement with the aim of establishing ideological unity on the basis of Marxism-Leninism and proletarian internationalism - so to be able to mount a unified and concerted effort with a united strategy against the big capital and monopolies(imperialism) anti-people anti-worker policies and united strategy.
The Paris Communards struggled and died in the defense of their ideas. The banners of the revolution and of socialism are not surrendered without a fight. Only cowards and the demoralized surrender — never Communists and other revolutionaries.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 25 Aug 2012, 03:30
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Post 26 Aug 2012, 02:53
I'm for a new workers international, but the Comintern was a bad model from the outset. On the European level, more political and organizational substance needs to be given to the European United Left / Nordic Green Left formation. On a more global level, a revival of the original Socialist International is a must.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 May 2012, 00:32
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Post 28 Aug 2012, 07:49
A process have been underway for some time by different aspects of what we can term as the international communist movement(ICM) - this includes parties affiliated to the main center for the ICM namely the International Meeting of Communist and Workers Parties(IMCWP).

A new international will be born out of these meetings and structures which are developing each day as we speak.

Some parties are being exposed collectively by the parties in the ICM as "non-revolutionaries", or coming to the conclusion themselves, that they do NOT want socialist revolution, a marxist-leninist communist party or a new communist international etc.

While on the other hand som parties declare openly their commitment to the ICM and also is willing to work to increase the cooperation between the Communist and Workers parties with the goal of establishing a new communist international.

The creation of such a new third communist international can not be declared by one party and cannot be declared just with a written document and statement etc.

The prerequisite for reaching the point of the future creation of a communist internatioanl depends on the outcome of the struggle within the ICM for the necessary ideological unity on the basis of Marxism-Leninism and Proletarian Internationalism.
This cooperation and work for a new communist international will develop and mature through practical collabaration and common work, actions and initiatives - and through a deep, broad and organised debate within the ICM, between the different parties and among ourselves.

In regard to communist movement of Russia and the former USSR - it is clear that those parties, as many others, will form an important and integrated role in any future communist international.

The most advanced theoretical elabarations around the ICM, and more specifically the issue of a new communist international, is best presented by the Communist Party of Greece KKE , and can be mainly found in the two big collections of articles from 2010 and 2011. The collection of articles is available on the international site of KKE:

The one document most suited for this overall debate about the ICM and new communist international - laying down a general foundation of principles - is the editorial of the first issue of the International Communist Review (

I post the full text here:

“The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions”.

(K. Marx – F. Engels, Manifesto of the Communist Party)

The publication of the first issue of the “International Communist Review” expresses the necessity of cooperation among theoretical and political journals of Communist Parties that have common positions on a series of fundamental theoretical and ideological issues. This necessity has matured through the assessment of the period of retreat of the international communist movement, following the victory of the counterrevolution in the USSR and the East and Central European countries, as well as through the issues set before the communist movement by the development of modern class struggle.

The steps taken in the past period towards the cooperation and coordination of the Communist and Workers’ Parties were important and necessary. We believe that they consist substantial achievements, which we support and will support. A certain level of discussion, exchange of information and coordination, of common positions and action on several issues has been achieved.

However, we still need to achieve a basic goal, that is, the ideological-political unity of the communist movement on the basis of Marxism Leninism, the defence of the achievements for the world working class of the first attempt in history to build socialism, as well as of the common view on the character of the overthrows and their causes, which is a precondition for overcoming the deep crisis of the communist movement, in order to revive its strategic goal - socialism.

This is why we assess that parallel to the continuation of the cooperation and coordination of Communist and Workers’ Parties, such as their yearly international meeting, it is necessary to enforce the cooperation among the theoretical Marxist Leninist journals on a theoretical level. We do not forget that the main condition for the formation of a revolutionary party is the mastery of the revolutionary theory, which was the focus of the III Leninist Communist International, whose 90th anniversary we celebrate this year. Already from the first issue of its theoretical journal “The communist international” Comintern outlined its organisational principles and its theoretical positions.

The “International Communist Review” continuing the traditions of Lenin is a publication with a clear ideological-political character. It is a journal with a point of view and does not merely record theses of the Communist Parties, besides, the latter process is served by other corresponding publications, such as the Information Bulletin of the international meetings of Communist and Workers’ parties, as well as other parties’ publications. Our goal is to contribute to the popularisation and development of the Marxist Leninist theory through the ideological analysis and political positioning on modern developments in capitalism and the issues of class struggle. We believe that the enforcement of the Marxist Leninist orientation within the international communist and labour movement is a precondition for its necessary reorganisation.

The theoretical and political journals of the CPs that cooperate for the publication of the “International Communist Review” came together based on our common view on major issues of the international communist movement, the defence of the principles of Marxism-Leninism, of proletarian internationalism, of the necessity of a socialist revolution, of the dictatorship of proletariat and of the construction of a socialist society.

We rally our forces to contribute to the theoretical and ideological reorganisation of the international communist movement on a stable Marxist-Leninist basis, despite our different approaches to tactical and strategic issues.

To expressly highlight the vanguard role of the working class in the revolutionary process, in conditions when a series of forces dispute the Marxist-Leninist criteria of belonging to the working class, consequently, its leading position in the struggle for social progress and in the revolutionary transition from capitalism to socialism as well.

To defend the Leninist principles on the party, in conditions of rising pressure on the communist parties for incorporation into the capitalist system.

To show the necessity of struggle against the imperialist unions, such as the IMF, NATO, the EU etc.

To defend the historical experience of the international communist movement, surely, without rejecting the necessary critique and the scientific conclusions that will help the modern international communist movement to take a step further. We think it is necessary to follow the path of the revolutionary traditions of the Paris Commune, of the October socialist revolution, of the Communist International and the socialist experience of the USSR and of the other countries.

The theoretical and ideological reorganisation of the international communist movement cannot be fulfilled without firm confrontation against the currents that act within the labour movement such as social-democracy, all types of opportunism within the communist movement itself, revisionism, reformism, nationalism, cosmopolitism of the capital and liberalism.

Thus, we openly expose our position, our view and our critique of the existing retreat and distortion of Marxism to the whole international communist movement and contribute to the initiation of a substantial discussion within its ranks for its theoretical and ideological orientation. We address all the theoretical journals of the CPs that support the above principles and wish to contribute to this effort.

We deemed necessary to devote the 1st issue of the “International Communist Review” to the current world economic crisis of capitalism, which discloses the historic boundaries of the capitalist system and accumulates explosive material that can contribute to revolutionary processes in the following years.

The current crisis confirms the significance of the exclusively theoretical work of K. Marx “The Capital”. It discloses as a key issue (in the key forefront of the theoretical work) its creative understanding, that is the conquest in depth of the laws of development of the capitalist economy, so that we can analyse phenomena that had not been fully developed in the era of Marx, such as the new forms of the circulation of money capital, the new technical means that accelerate the dissemination of information and transactions.

The Marxist-Leninist view and analysis of such phenomena is decisive for drawing conclusions from the political struggle for the working class of each country and internationally, for the strengthening of the ideological and political front against reformist and opportunist proposals concerning the rationalisation of capitalism.

We hope that the following articles, published in this journal, contribute to this direction.
The Paris Communards struggled and died in the defense of their ideas. The banners of the revolution and of socialism are not surrendered without a fight. Only cowards and the demoralized surrender — never Communists and other revolutionaries.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 May 2012, 00:32
Ideology: Marxism-Leninism
Post 28 Aug 2012, 08:05
RATM8 wrote:
Why does one countries party have to "be the leading party"? Why can it not be ran democratically all parties in all countries equal?

Dear comrade;

A leading party does not come in contrast with democracy or anything else. Is an objective fact that one party or another, in all circumstances, will be the so-called "leading party".

Imagine f.example a car race: Even tough everybody agrees to be equal and so on, one car will be the leading(or the winner) if not a rare split victory between two ore more cars occur. This do not negate the whole race or the other cars just because on is leading.

Another example: Imagine the football scene in your country. If you gave all teams equal amount of money, coaches, hours to practice etc etc - ONE team will end up being the leading in all cases.
Imagine football supporters without anyy special affiliation to a team beginning to say(Spains as an example): Why does one team have to win? Why can not everybody win and all matches draws?

The important issue in regards to " a leading party" or several "leading parties" is if it: a)upholds its revolutionary principles and ideological basis and convey the general political line of the ICM b)strenghtens the struggle of the communist movement and the struggle for socialism-communism c)is in accordance with the whole movement and all the parties in the ICM and the established organisationaL principles and statuettes decided upon by ALL the parties through the right mecanisms.
The Paris Communards struggled and died in the defense of their ideas. The banners of the revolution and of socialism are not surrendered without a fight. Only cowards and the demoralized surrender — never Communists and other revolutionaries.
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