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Poor Righteous Party of the Black Nation

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 06 Apr 2009, 21:22
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Post 26 Sep 2010, 15:56
Just when you thought you'd heard everything; here is a group that purports to be both Communist, and black nationalist. http://peacecomrade.org/ I myself feel that this is not much if any different from certain Nazbols whom try to mix Strasserism with Stalinism. In other words it's still a racist corruption of Communism. But when I try to point out the similarities between them and the National Socialists, the white guy in this picture, Comrade Martin, charged that I'm a racist for opposing black separatism.
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So I was just wondering about what the other comrades here might think about this. Should non-whites be excused for advocating ethnic nationalism? And is this a valid Communist party?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Jul 2008, 20:01
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Post 26 Sep 2010, 18:37
It's not wrong to say that, in general, the nationalism of the oppressed is a good thing.

If there was a big movement promoting national separatism of the black race in the USA, they'd have my solidarity. However, as the majority of Blacks do not seem to want this, the question is irrelevant anyway.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 19 Sep 2005, 13:48
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Post 26 Sep 2010, 19:02
I don't see how it's a good thing when the people in question are advocating it for one race only.

Last year someone posted an old article about a separate nation for American blacks and really my thoughts to that and really to this remains fairly the same "So in the name of socialism a form of black imperialism is justifiable?"

Would black majority rule in former African colonies have been justifiable, if they advocated the oppresion of whites and coloureds?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Jan 2010, 05:46
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Post 28 Sep 2010, 04:47
This sounds like an attempt to revive the Black Panther Party which is unnecessary black nationalism is unnecessary in modern America its like how feminism isn't necessary in modern America. The white guy in the picture has a creepy look on his face.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 12 May 2010, 07:43
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Post 28 Sep 2010, 04:58
Red Brigade wrote:
This sounds like an attempt to revive the Black Panther Party which is unnecessary black nationalism is unnecessary in modern America its like how feminism isn't necessary in modern America.

Disagree. Plenty more still needs to be done about both racial and gender inequality. I live in southeastern Michigan, and trust me, based on what I've seen in Detroit and surrounding suburbs, the rich-poor divide, which is highly split along racial lines, as well as the condescending attitudes of suburban whites toward inner-city blacks (which then spills over to all the black people that they see), are a pretty good indicator that some sort of radical movement - even if black nationalism/separatism is not necessary - needs to stand up not just for the interests of the poor as a whole, but that special attention needs to be paid to the poor blacks.

The same goes for women. On average, they make less money than men of the same position. Furthermore, there is plenty of misogyny and sexism going around, not just in the workplace, but in daily life. Socialists need to stand up for women as well as for minorities. To ignore these problems and say that acting in the interests of these groups is unnecessary sounds more like something I expect to hear from white, male privileged bourgeoisie and the women and minority that they have convinced that struggle for social justice is no longer necessary.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Apr 2010, 04:44
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Post 28 Sep 2010, 05:45
I'm not sure if nationalism/separatism is the necessary solution to these issues, but then again, if nothing else will suffice, and they're willing to try their own hand at curing Detroit or Gary, I say let them try. They can surely do no worse than us, and can hardly "destabilize" a region the majority of whites have all but relinquished all claim to.

For that matter, let the fragging Teabagger/Neo-Confederate South nullify off as well.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 19 Sep 2005, 13:48
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Post 28 Sep 2010, 12:48
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I'm not sure if nationalism/separatism is the necessary solution to these issues


I agree.

Like we saw in Rhodesia, and South Africa, separatism only exuberates matters and it doesn't solve anything.

In places where there are racial barriers, ideally what you need is to get the different races interacting with one another as early on as possible.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 21 Dec 2004, 23:53
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Post 28 Sep 2010, 14:54
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I'll read more into them later; however, looking at where the get their influences, it isn't hard to see the certain flaws such a party might have.
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