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American Party of Labor Hoxhaist

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 28 Jan 2008, 19:10
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Post 03 Mar 2010, 20:49
The American Party of Labor Hoxhaist, has some interesting theoretical articles online. Especially its review of Glen Beck's Revolutionary Holocaust. And a critique of various leftist lines.

http://revolutionaryspiritapl.blogspot.com/
http://theredphoenix.wordpress.com/
http://redrebelde.blogspot.com/

I'm closest to what they would call a Brezhnevite:
"Brezhnevism
A revisionist yet at first alluring ideology based generally around the belief that Khrushchev was a rightist deviator from Marxism-Leninism but that Brezhnev put a halt to this continued trend and instead consolidated socialism. It has come to mean basically “Pan-Stalinism,” which can be aptly defined as “if a world leader claimed to be socialist and [probably] wasn't named Tito, then he or she probably was, and if he or she claimed to lead a socialist nation under Marxist-Leninist guidelines, then so much the better.”
Brezhnevites generally state that Leonid Brezhnev, Joseph Stalin, Deng Xiaoping, Ho Chi Minh, Fidel Castro, Nicolae Ceausescu, Enver Hoxha, Mao Zedong and many others were all genuine in their communist views, but that the latter two specifically made mistakes and/or moved too far towards the ultra-left when they split with the USSR. They condemn Hoxhaism as “sectarian” and its analysis of state-capitalism as ultra-left and en route towards the road of rightism. Similarly, they deny the concept of social-imperialism and defend the invasions of Czechoslovakia and Afghanistan in particular as fully justified, while also defending present-day China as socialist. They respond to the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 with disdain, supporting the government's move against the students.
Brezhnevism is strong as a movement primarily because it allows for the acceptance of virtually all communist lines as acceptable and adopting an appealing "call to arms" towards all segments of Marxism-Leninism to unite towards revolution. In the process however, it ignores the fact that Marxist-Leninists do call for unity, just not unity for the sake of unity. Brezhnevites are also engaging in meaningless talk when they discuss "sectarianism," since the issue of whether China is socialist or not (among many other things) can in no way be viewed as a minor issue. Brezhnevism also has at its basis a welfarist appeal to emotion. What makes a country "socialist?" Well, first it claims to be socialist, and it is led by a communist party of some sort. It also provides for the people (however varied the "provisions" be, from the DPRK to Cuba to China). Clearly, the "great concern" a country has for its citizens magically makes it socialist when such is backed up by socialist rhetoric, if we are to believe the Brezhnevites. When this fails, of course, they go into a Trotskyist-like "defense of the gains of the revolution," condemning all criticisms of a "socialist" country as attempts at "counterrevolution." "

This is a claim I had not heard before:
As E.H. Carr notes in his 1982 book Twilight of the Comintern, the communists viewed the Nazis as petty-bourgeois socialists. The connection between fascism and Nazism was not at all clear for most people back then as it is today. Fascism claimed to be “neither capitalism nor socialism” (social-democracy also claimed to be “neither capitalism nor Bolshevism”), whereas the Nazis stated that they were socialists, since socialism was extremely popular in Germany at the time.
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Post 29 Mar 2010, 12:39
Sounds more like a critique of a style of government than an ideology. To think of "Brezhnevism" as an ideology is like calling Bushism an ideology.

Also, I've never heard of a party that self-identifies as Brezhnevite so I'm not sure where they're getting those modern day positions from.
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Post 30 Mar 2010, 09:47
I guess for them Brehnevism means anyone who defends post-Stalin and post-Mao socialist states.
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Post 30 Mar 2010, 13:27
So like Cuba and Former Yugoslavia? I didn't think that Hoxhaists were critical of Cuba. Although, I know that Yugoslav and Albanian communists hate each other. Also, I thought that Hoxhaists thought that Mao was an imperialist.
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Post 20 Dec 2010, 04:07
First the group you are referring to is not called the American Party of Labor Hoxhaists, it's just the APL.
Well I'd be happy to shed more light on this topic, at least in regards to Hoxhaism and the American Party of Labor.

The Party itself, does not identify itself as a “Hoxhaist” organization but follows the standard Marxist-Leninist viewpoint to a more anti-revisionist background as detailed in their theoretical journal in "Why the CPUSA is Revisionist & Why There is a Need For the American Party of Labor" http://revolutionaryspiritapl.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-cpusa-is-revisionist-why-there-is_27.htmlr The APL follows in the ideological footsteps of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin.

On another forum an APL member stated a Brezhnevite was someone who, like said above but more bluntly put 'finds an ally in whoever is waving a red flag'. Now I take from this the idea that a Brezhnevite (correct me if I am wrong) is characterized by a believing that most Marxist ideologies can coexist together and yes, Brezhnevites would generally defend the USSR after Stalin as socialist, China as socialist, Yugoslavia as socialist, you name it.

I have become a 'Hoxhaist.’ Hoxha is primarily important because after the De-Stalinization of the USSR Mao Zedong took 'leadership' over the communist world and was seen as a continuation of the Ideology of Stalinism. Hence why you have organizations that are Marx-Engels-Lenin-Stalin-Mao. Hoxha, in Imperialism and Revolution, discusses how Mao was not a continuation of Stalin or Marxism-Leninism and how revisionist thought is a threat to communism (as we have seen by its collapse) and it's ultimate goals.

So yeah, “Hoxhaism” is a term created to make the idea seem differentiate from the anti-revisionist line and it's a term used by the Trots to make the idea seem like it is a cult. However 'Hoxhaists', consider themselves Marxist-Leninist. The key difference that they do not follow Mao, they stick with Stalin.

That's enough of my rambling, but if you want to know more check here: The APL has a new house http://americanpartyoflabor.org/ and the Red Phoenix has a new URL: http://theredphoenixapl.org/

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Post 21 Dec 2010, 15:03
Thats really interesting. Im a big fan of Hoxa, have you got a site where I could read any of his works?
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Post 23 Dec 2010, 13:50
Iron Felix wrote:
Thats really interesting. Im a big fan of Hoxa, have you got a site where I could read any of his works?
Thanks!


http://marx2mao.com/
http://archive.250x.com/hoxha.html
http://www.marxists.org/reference/archi ... /index.htm
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Post 27 Dec 2010, 21:27
I don't have a very high opinion on Hoxhaism. I mean, the APL have some interesting theoretical articles, but that's about it, right? What do they do in daily struggle?

Their criticism of "Brezhnevism" is pretty silly. They also consider anti-revisionist M-Ls like Ludo Martens as "Brezhnevites", because he did not fully denounce the "state-capitalist" USSR, and because he dared suggest that Stalin was not 100% perfect in "Another View". Never mind all his other criticism of Brezhnev, if Hoxhaists say he's a Brezhnevite, then that's what he is because Hoxhaists are theoretically pure.

I mean, if they want to be Hoxhaists, good for them, but if they're just going to break unity in every possible way, why should they be engaged with any more than the Trots?
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