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US communists say their time has come

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Post 17 Oct 2008, 16:56
US communists say their time has come
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iMC ... BcAT2ZJmlg


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NEW YORK (AFP) — A rare bird in the political world, the US Communist Party is feeling rather smug in these days of capitalist turmoil.

At the party's New York headquarters on 23rd Street in Manhattan, regional party chairman Libero Della Piana, 36, laid out why he thinks Marxist-Leninism's time has finally come.

"We are very excited, we feel that we are at a turning point," Della Piana, an imposing half-Italian, half-African American with a pony tail, told AFP.

"We can afford to be less on the defensive for the first time since Ronald Reagan, and we can say our word in rebuilding America on a new basis, rebuilding a better world, instead of one based on the greed of the few."

The US Communist Party was founded in 1919 and never really took off. It was ostracized during the Cold War and members faced discrimination, even firing from their work, during the anti-Communist drive of the 1950s.

Today, the party claims to have 3,000 to 3,500 members -- seemingly not a threat to the giant Democratic and Republican parties contesting next month's White House election.

But American communists think that the collapse of Wall Street and huge disillusionment among the public with the economy has put them on a roll.

"We receive more and more phone calls, we have more inquiries from people, we see an increase in interest," Della Piana said. "We hope to be part of the discussion. I can see a role for the Communist Party in this next period."

"The crisis' number one lesson: the market cannot regulate itself," he said. "Otherwise it goes out of control."

Communist youth coordinator Erica Smiley, 28, said "the major issues for the young are: peace, jobs, health care, education, and we provide them with answers."

Whether the communists will be able to deliver remains open to question.

One plus is that their recently renovated New York headquarters, featuring the obligatory tomes of Lenin and Marx, is prime real estate -- a serious and very capitalist nest egg.

But few people were about during a visit by AFP on Monday and the atmosphere was collegial and slightly sleepy, rather than revolutionary.

"They are all out working to get people to vote," explained Bill Davis, 65, who has been a faithful member for 37 years.

There is no communist running for the White House and the Communist Party does not endorse Democrat Barack Obama.

Yet many staff here wore his picture on lapel buttons, while Republican John McCain was relegated to a box of tissues -- the tissues being pulled through his mouth.
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Post 17 Oct 2008, 17:45
Is anyone here a member of the CPUSA?

I'm curious as to what they are thinking. They're not endorsing anyone directly, but they are getting people to vote and telling them to not vote Republican (according to their website).

I think in this crisis, the Libertarians and Peace & Freedom parties are the ones that have started to get more attention.
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Post 17 Oct 2008, 18:44
Man if the CPUSA wasn't almost completely useless at this point I'd be somewhat enthused.
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Post 17 Oct 2008, 19:00
Bah! CPUSA bunch of crap. Made up of liberals and revisionists.
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Post 17 Oct 2008, 21:05
US-Kommunisten profitieren von Finanzkrise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASPoXRcIX7A
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Post 17 Oct 2008, 23:24
First they need to divorce themselves from the Dems, otherwise, this will be all for nothing.
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Post 17 Oct 2008, 23:30
I can't seem to be able to find any Libertarian socialist or Anarcho-Communist parties in the US, seems the CPUSA is probably the best bet for any American communist.
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Post 18 Oct 2008, 14:44
The only time the CPUSA was really thought of as a legit organization was during the depression and a little bit during World War II. But ever since the start of the Cold War they've done nothing. They still think that with in 50 years they'll control the country though.
Once capitalists know we can release the Kraken, they'll back down and obey our demands for sure.
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Post 18 Oct 2008, 18:10
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CPUSA is probably the best bet for any American communist.

What's the use if all they do is criticise the government and do nothing?
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Post 18 Oct 2008, 18:21
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Post 18 Oct 2008, 22:56
Kirov, your link doesn't work.

EDIT: Never mind, it does now.
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Post 20 Oct 2008, 23:11
Yeah the CPUSA is allying itself with a sect from the ruling class to boost itself into power sounds like a solid idea..
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Post 07 Nov 2008, 01:34
america and communisme i like the idea

here in the netherlands our socialists group sp had made it to the 3th group to bad the capitalistic cda and pvda is till above them but next election we communist will rise and help netherlands for it capitalistic grip
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Post 07 Nov 2008, 02:03
@Red Rebel

It's good for them as long as the members of their party understand what they're doing. Otherwise it seems much like flat-out betrayal.
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Post 09 Sep 2009, 23:19
I dont think they were ever taken seriously
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Post 28 Sep 2009, 00:57
Yes and other Parties tactics have worked out so well.


When people think communism in the US, they think CPUSA. We are the party that gets invited to send foreign delegations to international conventions and meetings with parties around the world. Our party has been able to survive the palmer raids, red scare, McCarthyism, COINTELPRO, Reagan, the fall of the USSR, and the USA PATRIOT act whereas almost all other parties have come and gone.

We have a concrete plan to defeat the ultra-right, but the far-left is not nearly powerful enough to do it on it's own. That is why we encourage members to vote Democrat as a means to prevent right-wing domination along the lines of Reagan. It also serves to preserve some semblance of a better life for working people. Our aim is to provide the working class with the best life possible, rather than adhering to old dogma.
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Post 28 Sep 2009, 01:24
That makes no sense. The right-wingers aren't the enemy, the bourgeoisie is. Who do you think created the conditions for the existence of the right wing?

Honestly this sounds like an excuse to take a revisionist direction. The democrats are a capitalist party run by millionaires, just like the republicans. Hell, just like every capitalist party in existence.

Also preaching for revolution isn't 'old dogma', it isn't the communists' job to make the process of exploitation as smooth as possible. We want to abolish it entirely!

Sam Webb is not in touch with reality.
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Post 28 Sep 2009, 01:35
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... not in touch with reality.


You repeat yourself.
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Post 28 Sep 2009, 01:36
That's because I'm high as a kite and it's the only phrase I can think of that accurately describes my thoughts.
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Post 28 Sep 2009, 01:36
lol alright.
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