Soviet cogitations: 2693 Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 01 Mar 2006, 08:59 Party Bureaucrat
13 Jul 2006, 03:14
Youth for International Socialism
Dude... I don't wanna laugh, because you are obviously earnest and trying to figure it out... but the last article on the website was dated 2000! They are obviously more dead than a doornail! Choose LIFE, bro!
Plus, I would stay away from the Grant-Woods tendency: one, because of their odious politics of entrism which is dishonest and destructive; two, because they are completely fragged up on oppressed nationalities.
Youth for Socialist Action
These people are apparently the people who stuck with Permanent Revolution when the SWP lurched into Castro-opportunism. Thats cool, that tells me they have some modicum of integrity (...by Trot standards of course )
Your what, 16? If you *insist* on Trotskyism, I'd suggest you stay away from these sectlets and just work with ANSWER. Then, when you are an adult and you are still down for it, consider the WWP or PSL
Of course, you KNOW where I stand on THAT whole divide
Soviet cogitations: 10588 Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 21 Dec 2004, 23:53 Ideology: Marxism-Leninism Philosophized
27 Jul 2006, 02:29
y4sa responded in two letters. I asked them why I should choose the y4sa>YPSL
I use to be in the YPSL once upon a time, and left it because I found it to by and large be an inactive group. The YPSL, and the Socialist Party that it is affiliated to, pride themselves on being broad "mulit-tendency" socialist group. That initially is what attracted me to them. But once inside I found that what that meant is that nobody really agrees on much, other than a generic affinity for undefined socialism, and because of that the group barely functioned. There were, and I'm sure still are, a lot of good people in those groups who do good work, but the good work they do seems to be inspire of their membership in the YPSL or SP.
Youth for Socialist Action, and our affiliated party, Socialist Action, are specifically revolutionary socialist with a very clear program, which enables us to effectively work together around common campaigns.
Adam R. sent me a note that you live in Philly and are looking for info on Youth 4 Socialist Action and YPSL. I'm a member of Socialist Action and a former member of YPSL and the Socialist Party who lives on the Jersey side of the river, so I thought I might have some insight on the matter.
YPSL and the Socialist Party are bigger on paper than YSA or Socialist Action, but in reality that doesn't translate to much. SA and YSA are organizations that take a very serious outlook on coordinating members' work, whether it's in antiwar or immigrant rights struggles, or environmental or labor work or any of the other things we do, and the newspaper is a great tool for education as well. The SP and YPSL give red cards out to anybody who signs up, and while any work you did would be encouraged, you'd basically be on your own. The SP has a small presence in Philly, but they mostly just support the Greens.
We're working to build a branch in Philadelphia of both Socialist Action and Youth 4 Socialist Action members. We'll be having regular forums and classes starting in the fall, and we're actively involved in antiwar work and solidarity for Cuba and Venezuela, and are looking to be part of support for political prisoners and the immigrant rights movement as well. If you join YSA, you'll have a chance to work in any or all of these causes (or anything else that interests you) with serious activists building toward socialism. YSA is also the youth group, so you would be more in charge of how much time and energy you want to commit -- we don't want to dictate your life. But there is no substitute for experience, for getting out there and being part of the political scene, and we'd be there working on the same page.
That's the pitch: YSA would be great for you if you want to be a serious activist. YPSL can't even compare.
Soviet cogitations: 83 Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 29 Jun 2006, 15:56 Pioneer
27 Jul 2006, 16:03
if you join the SWP, you had better think Cuba is heaven on earth, and all other Socialist governments in the world are "Stalinist"...
an interesting line...
I refer to the SWP as ex-trots...
they still sells Trotsky's writings, but totally disagree with him.
One time I went to Pathfinder books and this old SWP woman says to me "Trotsky realized you can't have socialism in one country..." and she goes on and on and on about "Stalinism" and why you can't have socialism in one country...
and then she tells me "check out the latest issue of our paper, it tells how cuba is a thriving socialist society..."
hmmm... last time I checked Cuba was only one country. Doesn't that make Castro an evil stalinist?