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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Jan 2010, 05:46
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Post 20 May 2010, 16:19
Is Turkmenistan socialist or what kind of economy do they have I know their economy is all about oil but do they have a Stalinist economy because I've heard alot of people comparing the former president Saparmurat Niyazov to Stalin and idk if they mean economy to or if they are just talking about his personality cult and purgese
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Post 20 May 2010, 22:46
Jeez, that was a massive run-on sentence and was hard to read for that reason. As for the late President for Life Saparmurat Niyazov, I honestly don't know enough about his economic policies to judge if the label Stalinist is appropriate. It could, likely, be his personality cult, though. I mean, we are talking about the guy who had a "Neutrality Arch" constructed, with a golden statue of himself on the top of the building that rotates 360 degrees so it follows the sun as far as it is able. Furthermore, I've met people who still think that modern-day P.R. China is a "totalitarian" and/or "Stalinist" state, so I wouldn't be surprised if people thought the same of Turkmenistan, even if their economy is not at all what Stalinist USSR was like, just because of the presence of a leader with a personality cult and lack of certain freedoms present in the West.
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Post 20 May 2010, 23:30
Sorry about writing a massive sentence, I don't always pay attention to that when I post in forums. And yeah Niyazov did have a massive interesting personality cult like the rotating statue and a giant copy of his book, but he also did some harm like I think he took a lot of funding away from schools and the only library is in the capita. He also made some dumb laws like outlawing beards, opera, ballet, and circuses and naming bread after his mother.
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Post 21 May 2010, 03:18
I don't think Turkmenistan runs a centralized economy. If so you'd hear more about them in the news. Most recently they've signed a deal with China for a gas pipeline I think. But yeah when it comes to their government, Niyazov ran it as a dictator. Now his son runs it as his successor. He gained notoriety for his strange policies, such as banning of beards and Ruhnama. Nobody cared to widen the word on Niyazov because Turkmenistan doesn't hold any importance to the U.S..
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Post 21 May 2010, 03:26
Soviet192491 wrote:
Nobody cared to widen the word on Niyazov because Turkmenistan doesn't hold any importance to the U.S..


Not even after the deal with China over the pipeline? I feel like that's something the US might be interested in, not just over the issue of resources, but because of the new fear of a strong China, which combines the best of the Red Scare and the Yellow Peril.
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Post 21 May 2010, 06:02
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Not even after the deal with China over the pipeline? I feel like that's something the US might be interested in, not just over the issue of resources, but because of the new fear of a strong China, which combines the best of the Red Scare and the Yellow Peril.

The U.S. doesn't show any particular interest in Central Asia. They have no strategical value, they're all corrupt states. Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan take your pick. You won't hear anything about them in the news besides the U.S.'s concern of their air base or w/e in Kyrgyzstan. While independent from Russia, Russia still has massive influence over them. If the U.S. had any interest in these countries they'd be provoking Russia. Take Georgia for an example in 2008.

When it comes to China and these countries, it's just strictly economical. China's growing influence does concern the U.S., but as said before the U.S. doesn't hold any significant interest in this area. If China were to establish strong economic ties with Iran or Cuba, then it'll be news. But the news won't be anything short of Hillary Clinton condemning China.
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