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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 17 Jul 2006, 00:10
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Post 06 Oct 2009, 10:55
there's a really long and old article in slovene about it. i'll try to find it but no promises.
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Post 14 Oct 2009, 20:44
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Most wars are religiously based. Atheism cures all religious psychos who try to impede there views on others.


In my experience, most religious psychos who tried to impede their views on others were atheists.
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Post 20 Oct 2009, 03:23
That is actually an interesting point article. I'd like to hear more info.

The USA does tend to break former socialist countries into many different pieces (i.e. USSR, Yugoslavia, China, Vietnam, Korea). And if you look at colonialism there are many examples of random line drawings by capitalists that formed nations that are fragged up.
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Post 20 Oct 2009, 20:22
so far all the articles i found mentioned that washington "desired" for a peaceful solution until the very last moment. i'd recommend digging up more information about Warren Zimmermann, who was actively opposing our independance and stated in forbes that slovenia started the war. Mitterrand was also opposing independence but decided to throw his lot in with us later.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 02 Apr 2009, 23:59
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Post 01 Nov 2009, 05:38
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Atheism is a religion just as much as Christianity.

Atheism in and of itself is no such thing. It is defined as being a lack of belief in God's existence. In this sense, all agnostics are technically "weak" atheists, as they lack.

But even then, I wouldn't compare "strong" (affirmative belief in the non-existence of any God) atheism with biblical Christianity. Even in its "strong" form, atheism itself lacks any bylaws and customs, and the real fanaticism happens when explicit atheism is made a tenet of a broader radical ideology (i.e. most Maoist thought).

Biblical Christianity, however, inherently possesses all components necessary for oppression. One need only skim over the Bible to find racism, sexism, child rape, and mass murder, much of it blessed by God. I won't include more progressive/revolutionary sects such as Liberation Theology or Reform Judaism as they break from Biblical writings significantly, and therefore, in my opinion, shouldn't be considered "biblical".
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Post 01 Feb 2010, 06:17
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Atheism cures all religious psychos who try to impede there views on others.


And puts atheist psychos in their place. Everybody should just stop caring about god
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Post 01 Feb 2010, 14:42
And that's atheism,when you stop caring about god.
Thing is,god/religion has never been a personal matter,but a strong tool in social cohesion,than creation of nations,states...It is an important factor in society,more than a metaphysical entity.
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Post 02 Feb 2010, 01:06
LOZZZ1405 wrote:
And that's atheism,when you stop caring about god.

No that's agnosticism, or existentialism, or nihilism. Atheists don't believe in God, there is no possibility of his existence, agnostics say "Who gives a frag, Im living in the here and now sin god"
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Post 02 Feb 2010, 12:31
This definition doesn't matter really for you've went into subjective,personal,space.The only thing important is that all of these share(to a certain degree) a similar antagonism towards religion.
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Post 03 Feb 2010, 03:09
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No that's agnosticism, or existentialism, or nihilism.

No, it's apatheism.

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Atheists don't believe in God, there is no possibility of his existence

Non-belief and explicit disbelief are two different things. Again, strong and weak atheism.

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agnostics say "Who gives a frag, Im living in the here and now sin god"

Again, this is apatheism. Agnosticism far more varied than most people think. Agnosticism is merely the lack of affirmative belief (non-belief). One may hope that there is god, hope there is not, or be totally on the fence. An agnostic may even think there is probably or probably not a deity and be genuinely interested in researching the arguments for one or both sides for answers to the question. I think your definition here is far too restrictive and exclusive to work for agnosticism as a whole.
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