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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 04 Aug 2007, 23:25 Ideology: Marxism-Leninism Komsomol  28 Sep 2008, 13:11
Does anyone know more about the Socialist People's Republic of Albania and Comrade Enver Hoxha?.
I discovered the Albanian legacy a few days ago. Sounds interesting to me.  "Communism is more about love for mankind than about politics." Me 28 Sep 2008, 22:44
Wasn't he basically an anti-revisionist who continued to support Stalin until his death? He was pro-China (until Deng Xiaoping's clique came to power), but did not consider himself to be a Maoist.
"Unpolitisch sein heißt: politisch sein, ohne es zu merken." - Rosa Luxemburg
 29 Sep 2008, 01:20
Excuse my bluntness, but Enver Hoxha was a fool. His "Anti-revisionism" alienated many Socialist Nations from supporting it, and by the time Hoxha died, Albania was an isolated and poor nation with few (If any) friends.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 04 Aug 2007, 23:25 Ideology: Marxism-Leninism Komsomol 30 Sep 2008, 21:13
According to Wikipedia, "Hoxhaism" is an anti-revisionist ideology which is characterized by support of Stalin and Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism and rejection of every ideology that opposes Stalinism.
As such, Hoxha first rejected the ultra-revisionist movement of Tito, followed in 1956 by rejecting the destalinisation and revisionism of Kruschev. Albania turned its back on Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union. Hoxha made an alliance with Mao's China, but this relation ended when the revisionist Deng Xiaoping came to power. Albania continued the way of Marxism-Leninism, Stalinism and Maoism. "Communism is more about love for mankind than about politics." Me 30 Sep 2008, 21:32
Hoxhaism is a dogmatic and sectarian deviation away from marxism-leninism and scientific socialism. It's a kind of maoism-from-above which places the idolation of Stalin above all else.
The moment one accepts the notion of 'totalitarianism', one is firmly locked within the liberal-democratic horizon. - Slavoj Žižek
30 Sep 2008, 21:45
Does Hoxhaim actually count as a form of Marxism? Or is it just a term stating that you follow the decisions made by that ruler?
 We have beaten you to the moon, but you have beaten us in sausage making.- Nikita Khrushchev 30 Sep 2008, 22:05
Hoxhaism is the ideology of Hoxha, he didn't add anything of value to Marxism and he banished its scientific credentials.
The moment one accepts the notion of 'totalitarianism', one is firmly locked within the liberal-democratic horizon. - Slavoj Žižek
30 Sep 2008, 22:44
I kind of knew that, I was just being sarcastic. But yeah I had a small doubt that he didn't contribute anything to Marxism.
We have beaten you to the moon, but you have beaten us in sausage making.- Nikita Khrushchev 30 Sep 2008, 22:45
Many socialist nations turned their backs on Hoxha once they thought his ideas were too "extreme" and odd.
Albania lent great support during the war to the DPRK, and they had excellent relations throughout the 70's. But Hoxha took an unusual approach of ultra-leftism, and told everyone that Albania is the only real socialist country in the world. Relations deteriorated after this. On his funeral, very little foreign delegates came to pay their respects, but a DPRK delegate was present. 30 Sep 2008, 22:50
Looks like another Ceausceau, anti-USSR, (former) Warsaw Pact leader to me. This is my asuumtion despite my limited knowledge on him.
We have beaten you to the moon, but you have beaten us in sausage making.- Nikita Khrushchev 30 Sep 2008, 23:55
he was pretty good. his bizzare ideology weakened albania's economy to a degree which prevented albania's intervention in the balkan wars in 91. he also kept nationalists on a short leash during his reign. after his death, the leash was loosen, which is very sad to be honest. but still he prevented more slaughter in the balkans with his policies and after china turned him down he started to look up to yugoslavia with a bit more kinder tone.
 Jugoslavija je bleda slika premrzlega partizana zato je njeno ljudstvo navajeno trpeti zato je njeno ljudstvo pripravljeno umreti. -Via Ofenziva Forum Rules 
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 01 Mar 2006, 08:59 Party Bureaucrat 01 Oct 2008, 04:36
This bashing of Hoxha perplexes me. Albania was one of the leading lights in the Socialist camp. Hoxha's PLA liberated the country from fascism without help from the Allies or the Red Army. Hoxha was a great Marxist-Leninist. He correctly upheld the contributions of Lenin and Stalin after the devastating sabotage of Khrushchev from the 20th CPSU congress onwards. He correctly saw that China's Three Worlds Theory was false and harmful. I think the record speaks for itself in that regard -- unless you think that China supporting Pinochet and UNITA was a good thing.
 "To know a thing you must study it." --Dagoth Ur 01 Oct 2008, 09:49
where did i say i support revisionist xiaoping and his "socialism"?
if he uphelds his principles that's all fine with me. but he upheld his on a way that was disasterous for his country. and besides, on the end he wanted to get close with yugoslavia but at that time it was already too late. Jugoslavija je bleda slika premrzlega partizana zato je njeno ljudstvo navajeno trpeti zato je njeno ljudstvo pripravljeno umreti. -Via Ofenziva Forum Rules 27 Dec 2008, 23:19
The Sino-Albania split was unfortunate, but otherwise, Hoxha was a good Marxist-Leninist who held the Anti-Revisionist line.
Comrade misuzu, I will have to disagree on this one. I support Mao, but Hoxha was better to "alienate" Albania from the Khruschevites and Xiaopingites than to collaborate with them. The splits were unfortunate, but natural and necessary given the deviation of China and the former USSR away from Marxism. "Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will."-Antonio Gramsci
07 Jan 2009, 07:21
Exactly why did Albania's economy not grow under Hoxha?
06 Mar 2009, 16:29
Quote: Well, in fact it did grow. Hoxha industrialized the country, combatted illitiracy and made the health sector a lot better. 07 Mar 2009, 10:55
Hoxha would seem like a pretty decent guy if it weren't for his cold-blooded Atheism. Really, banning religion is one of the most abhorrent things any leader has ever done.
08 Mar 2009, 01:41
Quote: Or his isolationism. 08 Mar 2009, 13:04
True, but I'm not sure what I'd have done in his position. I guess I'd have been damn reluctant to align myself with Deng Xiaoping, Brezhnev or, even worse, Gorbachev.
But Tito would have been a cool ally, I guess. 09 Mar 2009, 17:27
Hoxha was an admirable comrade, and his contributions to the practical struggle of socialism (primarily on applying a scientific analysis of revisionism) are well worth reading. True, his position later developed an edge of ultra-leftism, nonetheless this can be firmly discounted in light of the fact that he was an important figure in not only establishing socialism in Albania, but defending a relatively small nation against aggressors on all sides.
The modern struggle against revisionism owes a lot to Enver Hoxha; if not for any particularly "monumental" contributions to Marxist-Leninist thought, but rather for his continuous struggle to keep it alive and strong.  |
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