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Post 21 Apr 2013, 19:54
Because even if a small number of votes had been tampered with ( which is not that unlikely ) then the elections can be called invalid.
Were there int. observers at the polls?
What did they say about the transparency of Ven. elections?
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Post 21 Apr 2013, 20:01
There were many observers form UNASUR, OEA (OAS), the Carter center, etc. They all approved of the election.
The voting system has been audited 3 times during the election. And now they're going to audit all the ballot boxes.

The curious thing is that Capriles doubt the election when they lose, but not when he wins. He got elected governor on the December elections and won with a difference of less than 50.000 votes.


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Post 27 Apr 2013, 06:03
soviet78 wrote:
How could the victory have been so narrow? Was it really due to Chavez' charisma alone?


Alan Woods wrote about this in Reformism or Revolution. He speculated that keeping the masses mobilized (without taking control of the state and smashing the previous one) would negatively affect the masses. You saw this throughout Chavez's tenure, each election was won with a lesser margin. And eventually a loss (changing the constitution).

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The voting system has been audited 3 times during the election. And now they're going to audit all the ballot boxes.


iirc 50-55% of the ballots were audited during the election day (venezuela analysis?). Apparently this is a high number compared to other democratic states. I'll try and dig up the source later.
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Post 15 May 2013, 02:22
@soviet78, this might answer some of your questions on why the victory was narrower: Understanding the Venezuelan Presidential Election Outcome.

Also a link for the ballots audited on election day: A random audit of 54 percent of the votes is routinely conducted immediately after the polls close on election day, and was done without any discrepancies on Sunday evening.
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