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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Feb 2005, 22:00
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Post 11 Mar 2005, 19:58
Why we turn into the communism? In my case ,my country ,Argentine became into a indiviudalist country ;here the people want a great country(we have the necessary)but they won't do nothing ,here the people wait to someone who resolve the problems. And if theirs propieties are threatened then they leave to their countrymen resolved alone the problems, for risk not their properties. For that i lot a lot of friends I always hate to the individualist and for this reason i lost friends but i don t take this posicion for obtain more friends
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Post 13 Mar 2005, 02:45
When we take a political posission sometimes we need broke with our past
the communism need to people who first think in the community and before in himself.
about me i am treatment to apply the communism in my life and in my country ;and this is the reason for i am a communist is for try to get my country in a beter place and sometimes i feel alone in this figth,but i always animate myself with a russian phrase:
"For the Mother Land" and that is what it unites us to all the Communists.
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Post 15 Mar 2005, 18:11
Dax Van Streich from the little I know of Argentina (and I am sort of genralizing all of South America) I would say Socialism is not practical. Because the US will hurt Argentina's economy more with blockades and ect.

Still some South American countries have some guts to stand up against the US. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez recentaly spoke against Bush and pro-socialist. I guess we don't know where are future is taking us.
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Post 20 Mar 2005, 03:28
I am not stand up agaist the US. I respect the American people for their brave and strong.I am stand up agaist the Individualism this mentality is destroying the world evolution ,for me, we are entering into a new Average Age where the different ideasare not acepted.
We must chage the world mentality or whe will accept the cultural degradation and this there is not an option for us we have mission of try to improve the world.Maybe we will never see the results buts the next generation will see that and the will be thankful.And this is the point where the individualism the dont see the our benefit; if we want leave the individualism we must understand that in this figth the benefit are few or none.

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Post 20 Mar 2005, 03:34
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We must chage the world mentality


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Post 20 Mar 2005, 04:35
There are Socialist communes in Argentina, correct, they seem to be thriving.
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Post 24 Mar 2005, 01:35
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We are entering into a new Average Age


Sorry for the expresion "Average Age" I wished to say "The Midless Ages"
i do that mistake because ,when i don't know a word i use a spanish - english traslator and it traslate "Edad Media"(Midless Ages in spanish) as "Average Age"; sorry for that.

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Post 24 Mar 2005, 09:59
Thats alright. Most of the time the internet translators like google dont work too well. I've always seen argentina as more fascist. I guess thats because of ww2. But its good that your a communist
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Also by midless age do you mean middle ages? I'm not exactly sure.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 02 Sep 2004, 17:54
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Post 24 Mar 2005, 12:54
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Thats alright. Most of the time the internet translators like google dont work too well. I've always seen argentina as more fascist. I guess thats because of ww2. But its good that your a communist
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Also by midless age do you mean middle ages? I'm not exactly sure.


From what I can see, many of his ideas seem fascist to me...

- Anti-individualism
- Nationalism
- "people who first think in the community and before in himself." - This is what defines a "Hero" under Fascism.

I saw more examples, but I have to go.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Feb 2005, 22:00
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Post 24 Mar 2005, 20:27
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Also by midless age do you mean middle ages? I'm not exactly sure.

Sorry again: Middle Ages.

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From what I can see, many of his ideas seem fascist to me...

Maybe you are rigth , Maybe some of my ideas are Pro-fascist,
And if this its true, I will try change my mentallity.
And tell me:

- Anti-individualism
- Nationalism
- "people who first think in the community and before in himself

Are these Ideas wrong?

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Post 24 Mar 2005, 20:49
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Also by midless age do you mean middle ages? I'm not exactly sure.

Sorry again: Middle Ages.


Not a problem, as long as you're trying your best to learn English nobody can complain.


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Maybe you are rigth , Maybe some of my ideas are Pro-fascist,
And if this its true, I will try change my mentallity.
And tell me:

- Anti-individualism
- Nationalism
- "people who first think in the community and before in himself

Are these Ideas wrong?


No, of course not, I believe strongly in all three of these ideas. You should believe in whatever you think is best for your country, Argentina. Do not let Communism decide what your opinions will be, but rather choose for yourself what you believe in.

My original post was actually more directed at Frank_pivo anyway.


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Also, Dax Van Streich, what are your opinions of Fascism in Argentina around the WW2 time period? Since you're a citizen I'd be interested in hearing what you have to say about it. Do you think it was a good time for your country or bad? Explain why, etc?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Feb 2005, 22:00
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Post 01 Apr 2005, 12:47
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Also, Dax Van Streich, what are your opinions of Fascism in Argentina around the WW2 time period? Since you're a citizen I'd be interested in hearing what you have to say about it. Do you think it was a good time for your country or bad? Explain why, etc?


The Fascism in my country was different than the German and Italian, Because the fascism fall in the Sistem Apogee. why?
First when the fascist ascended had the popular support ,like Germany
the President called Juan Peron obtain the support benefitting the workers with his decisions on the Work Secretary (1943-1946).
Once in the government(1946) he start a persecution against the oposition partys and to scatter propaganda.
When he lost the church and some Army sectors support he started a fast fall, then in 1955 the Freedom Revolution exploded and Peron left Argentina.

In my opinion thye fascism experience was beneficial to the republic but we will obseve that :
The Freedom Revolution start very early they had wait the peronism decay because nobody can discredit a sistem who fall in this apogee
Even today Peron its an apreciated Politic person who discredit him (I do it) is discriminated.
The 1946-1955 was a growth period tho the republic i am not agree to the politic persecution but this is the only objetion of i can find.

The Peronism was and still being a simbol against the opression i think is for that the why the communism is considerated than the monarchy,Because when in the others countrys figth to put the communism sistem here figth to put the peronism again in the top.


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Post 21 Jun 2005, 18:55
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- Anti-individualism
- Nationalism
- "people who first think in the community and before in himself."


Companero, estoy con tigo. Tenemos que liberar nuestro pueblo como San Martin y Bolivar o Lenin y Stalin en Rusia. No le debes nada de respeto a los gringos, a la mierdo con ellos! La razon por toda la pobresa y individualismo en Argentina es por el gringo "mcdonalds" cultura con MTV, coca cola y otra basura.

Yo soy un Marxista-Leninista pero tambien apoyo a General Peron. Abajo de Peron teniemos un gobierna socialista donde todos viviemos bien y iguales, sin la influencia venenosa de los yanquis.

fragging USA!!!

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Anyone who says Peron was a Fascist knows nothing of Peron or Peronism. Peron was a Social nationalist who gave blacks and mestizos equal rights to whites, the same with women, and he gave working people good wages and developed Argentina with 5 Year plans like Stalin. He was no fascist, he was a patriot who was a socialist!
"There's no reason for the establishment to fear me. But it has every right to fear the people collectively -I am one with the people."-Huey Newton
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Feb 2005, 22:00
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Post 23 Jun 2005, 13:58
Hermano, me siento gratificado por tu apoyo y comprencion.
Debo admitir que a veces mando al diablo a los Yankis pero ese sentimiento no debe ser inculcado.

La union que requiere el anti- individualismo debe ser fomentada e inspirada por un sentimiento y deseo de libertad y no de odio hacia otros pueblos tales como Norteamerica ,trato de no verlos por sus acciones porque esas acciones parten de esa mentalidad que hay que cambiar.

Es dificil pero no hay que odiar a los Americanos por su mentalidad (porque puede cambiarse) sino respetarlos por su potencial y un gran ejemplo es la presencia de ciudadanos Americanos en esta pagina.


Brother , I feel grattificated for your support.
I must admit sometimes i send to the hell to the Yankis but that feel mustn´t be inculcated.

The anti-individualism need union but the union must be inspirated for freedom feels ,no for hate to others people than America, i try don´t see they for their action because this action comes from the mentality that we must change.

It´s hard but we musn´t hate to the Americans for their mentality (because it can be changed) we must respect they for their potential and a big example for that it's the presence of American citizens here, in this page.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 21 Jun 2004, 21:22
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Post 24 Jun 2005, 02:01
Argentina is (I guess you would call it) Uber-Capitalistic. After corporations have abandoned factories and caused massive unemployment, some workers have restarted their production and communized their local industry.

It is not yet a socialist country, the president who has brought the Uber-Capitalism is back after I think about ten years (his first term created a state of extreme economic corporatism that exists today).
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 22 Mar 2004, 23:00
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Post 24 Jun 2005, 02:58
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Hermano, me siento gratificado por tu apoyo y comprencion.
Debo admitir que a veces mando al diablo a los Yankis pero ese sentimiento no debe ser inculcado.


Los yankis son la razon por nuestro sufrimiento.

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La union que requiere el anti- individualismo debe ser fomentada e inspirada por un sentimiento y deseo de libertad y no de odio hacia otros pueblos tales como Norteamerica ,trato de no verlos por sus acciones porque esas acciones parten de esa mentalidad que hay que cambiar.


Yo estoy con tigo pero los yankis son un caso especial. Los yankis nos odian! Ellos creen que nosotros somos animales y esclavos para hacer dinero para que ellos se compren su nuevo "SUV". Es justo que los esclavos tengan odio contra los jefes!

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Es dificil pero no hay que odiar a los Americanos por su mentalidad (porque puede cambiarse) sino respetarlos por su potencial y un gran ejemplo es la presencia de ciudadanos Americanos en esta pagina.


Yo vivo en Yankiland, and yo te puedo dicer que no se puede cambiar la mentalidad dejos. La gran depresion no los hico menos racista, individualista, etc, no hay forma de convencerlos que nosotros somos humanos tambien porque ellos son chanchos.

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Argentina is (I guess you would call it) Uber-Capitalistic. After corporations have abandoned factories and caused massive unemployment, some workers have restarted their production and communized their local industry.

It is not yet a socialist country, the president who has brought the Uber-Capitalism is back after I think about ten years (his first term created a state of extreme economic corporatism that exists today).


Actually argentina in some sectors is less capitalist than america. Health care and education (K-university) are totally free. Although in other sectors it is far more capitalist than america. The president that invited the yankee slavedrivers like the IMF and world bank is Menem, not Kirschner (kirschner is the current president), Kirschner has told the world bank to frag off and is starting programs to feed and clothe the poor and get homeless children off the streets. Kirschner is also good friends with Hugo Chavez and stresses LAtin American unity like Peron and Chavez.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Feb 2005, 22:00
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Post 24 Jun 2005, 21:25
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Los yankis son la razon por nuestro sufrimiento.


No acostumbro a criticar sin proponer soluciones ,así que dime ¿Que propones?

I dont use the criticizing without proposing solutions, so it tell me what you propose?

Tambien escribe en Ingles las respuestas ,se que lo haces para facilitarme las cosas, pero aqui la mayoria habla en ingles y no es justo que no puedan leer lo que decimos.
Esto se trata de debatir y poder opinar no le quitemos la oportunidad a nuestros comaradas.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Feb 2005, 22:00
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Post 21 Aug 2005, 20:48
I was thinking in your answer and thinking in my reply and only i can say is you can't say the weapon is guilty for your Suffering all the people know who pull the Trigger is guilty the weapon was made to be shooted like the Americans (some not all) was maded to hate. My point is if we use the weapon metal we can do other instrument formed to peacefull objetives.

The American (and world) mentallity can be changed ,its hard we know, how many time need that, A century, five Centuries? What is your worry?

I am not saying we must wait seated ,no , we must change the mentallity as i said few months ago, of course alone we can't do nothing thogether we can but we must be free of hate.

The hate is a Feeling ,the Feelings are illogical we must be logical to prevail.

That is my propose.

Sorry for my english.
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Post 25 Aug 2005, 05:07
hmm Argentina....mate
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