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Obama continues terrorist blockade of Cuba

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Jul 2006, 04:49
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Post 20 Sep 2009, 04:57
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I thought Kupredu was russian?


IIRC he is Armenian.
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Post 20 Sep 2009, 11:19
That would explain so much. (well except for his love of the Middle East)
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Post 16 Apr 2011, 06:12
How is it a crime to not trade with someone? I understand that you guys love Cuba and hate the United States, but does a country really have to do commerce with a country that it doesn't want to trade with? I don't understand this.
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Post 16 Apr 2011, 06:31
It's not simply that the US is not trading with Cuba but also that as part of the embargo it limits other parties (be they states or non-state) to trade with it, if they also want to maintain ties with the US. The embargo on Cuba has caused a lot of harm in terms of standards of living for the people there.

In my case, at least, it has less to do with a "hatred" of the United States, and more to do with the fact that it was a case of a superpower basically bullying a tiny island nation next to it (and this happened before the Cuban Missile Crisis) by imposing unfair conditions that hurt the livelihood of the ordinary citizens there simply because the US at the time didn't like their government.

I'm going to bed soon, but here's some information on what people have said about the effects of the embargo (and the sources of criticisms are not limited to what the mainstream would consider the "loony Left"):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... _and_rules
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Post 16 Apr 2011, 07:26
The two countries need to stop being antagonist toward each other. The past needs to be the past and they BOTH need to make efforts to regain decent relations with each other. Both sides will have to work toward this equally hard as it takes two to tango. It is time to let the past be the past.

The Cold War is over, these two countries need to realize that they could trade well. We can give them food and whatever they want, and they can give us some of their women and a nice case of cigars.
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Post 17 Apr 2011, 04:59
Why do you say both countries? Cuba has done nothing wrong regarding trading with the USA. The island is very interested in being able to trade with the USA, if the USA would treat her like an equal.
However, those in Washington are the ones that have to realize the Cold War is over... (in many ways besides Cuba)


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Post 20 Apr 2011, 06:50
Che Burashka wrote:
Why do you say both countries? Cuba has done nothing wrong regarding trading with the USA. The island is very interested in being able to trade with the USA, if the USA would treat her like an equal.
However, those in Washington are the ones that have to realize the Cold War is over... (in many ways besides Cuba)


While I agree that to resolve all of the problems, both sides need to work together, the above is nevertheless a more accurate assessment. The problem is that being the state that imposed the embargoes in the first place and being the superpower, the US has more power and responsibility in this area. Cuba was essentially punished from the outset for its revolution, and most of the "aggressive" actions the Cuban Communists have taken were more in response to what the US is doing to them.

I mean obviously there was probably a certain degree of resentment toward the US, particularly for exerting its influence over Cuba after the Spanish-American War and for supporting Batista, as any one nation would feel toward another state that has directly or indirectly oppressed and impoverished them, and obviously the embargo and other actions taken over the course of the last 5 decades did not help, but the problem is that the US initiated most of those actions, whereas Cuba has been on the receiving end. If both sides are to reconcile, there does need to be less aggressive actions taken against Cuba.
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Post 20 Apr 2011, 20:13
Cootie wrote:
How is it a crime to not trade with someone?


Under the Helms-Burton Act of 1996 multi-national companies had to pick whether to trade with Cuba or the USA. If they trade with both, the USA would fine the company.
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Post 20 Apr 2011, 20:54
Regarding the embargo, there's a good show about it here.


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Post 29 Nov 2011, 03:57
Obama is a joke. For all his promises, he has ended up continuing most policies from the Bush era, and going worse that W in some. He's a living example of why simply switching to and forth between Republican and Democrat goverments is unlikely to provide any real change. They're too much alike for that.
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