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Traitor Jang Song Thaek Executed

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 04 Feb 2013, 06:55
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Post 12 Dec 2013, 23:41
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Pyongyang, December 13 (KCNA) -- Upon hearing the report on the enlarged meeting of the Political Bureau of the Central Committee of the Workers' Party of Korea, the service personnel and people throughout the country broke into angry shouts that a stern judgment of the revolution should be meted out to the anti-party, counter-revolutionary factional elements. Against the backdrop of these shouts rocking the country, a special military tribunal of the DPRK Ministry of State Security was held on December 12 against traitor for all ages Jang Song Thaek.
The accused Jang brought together undesirable forces and formed a faction as the boss of a modern day factional group for a long time and thus committed such hideous crime as attempting to overthrow the state by all sorts of intrigues and despicable methods with a wild ambition to grab the supreme power of our party and state.
The tribunal examined Jang's crimes.
All the crimes committed by the accused were proved in the course of hearing and were admitted by him.
A decision of the special military tribunal of the Ministry of State Security of the DPRK was read out at the trial.
Every sentence of the decision served as sledge-hammer blow brought down by our angry service personnel and people on the head of Jang, an anti-party, counter-revolutionary factional element and despicable political careerist and trickster.
The accused is a traitor to the nation for all ages who perpetrated anti-party, counter-revolutionary factional acts in a bid to overthrow the leadership of our party and state and the socialist system.
Jang was appointed to responsible posts of the party and state thanks to the deep political trust of President Kim Il Sung and leader Kim Jong Il and received benevolence from them more than any others from long ago.
He held higher posts than before and received deeper trust from supreme leader Kim Jong Un, in particular.
The political trust and benevolence shown by the peerlessly great men of Mt. Paektu were something he hardly deserved.
It is an elementary obligation of a human being to repay trust with sense of obligation and benevolence with loyalty.
However, despicable human scum Jang, who was worse than a dog, perpetrated thrice-cursed acts of treachery in betrayal of such profound trust and warmest paternal love shown by the party and the leader for him.
From long ago, Jang had a dirty political ambition. He dared not raise his head when Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il were alive. But, reading their faces, Jang had an axe to grind and involved himself in double-dealing. He began revealing his true colors, thinking that it was just the time for him to realize his wild ambition in the period of historic turn when the generation of the revolution was replaced.
Jang committed such an unpardonable thrice-cursed treason as overtly and covertly standing in the way of settling the issue of succession to the leadership with an axe to grind when a very important issue was under discussion to hold respected Kim Jong Un in high esteem as the only successor to Kim Jong Il in reflection of the unanimous desire and will of the entire party and army and all people.
When his cunning move proved futile and the decision that Kim Jong Un was elected vice-chairman of the Central Military Commission of the Workers' Party of Korea at the Third Conference of the WPK in reflection of the unanimous will of all party members, service personnel and people was proclaimed, making all participants break into enthusiastic cheers that shook the conference hall, he behaved so arrogantly and insolently as unwillingly standing up from his seat and half-heartedly clapping, touching off towering resentment of our service personnel and people.
Jang confessed that he behaved so at that time as a knee-jerk reaction as he thought that if Kim Jong Un's base and system for leading the army were consolidated, this would lay a stumbling block in the way of grabbing the power of the party and state.
When Kim Jong Il passed away so suddenly and untimely to our sorrow, he began working in real earnest to realize its long-cherished greed for power.
Abusing the honor of often accompanying Kim Jong Un during his field guidance, Jang tried hard to create illusion about him by projecting himself internally and externally as a special being on a par with the headquarters of the revolution.
In a bid to rally a group of reactionaries to be used by him for toppling the leadership of the party and state, he let the undesirable and alien elements including those who had been dismissed and relieved of their posts after being severely punished for disobeying the instructions of Kim Jong Il and kowtowing to him work in a department of the Central Committee of the WPK and organs under it in a crafty manner.
Jang did serious harm to the youth movement in our country, being part of the group of renegades and traitors in the field of youth work bribed by enemies. Even after they were disclosed and purged by the resolute measure of the party, he patronized those cat's paws and let them hold important posts of the party and state.


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As many people freak out of this instance, they overlook the main fact that Jang Song Thaek was plotting to overthrow the government which is a traitorous act in every country. It would be no different in the United States if a faction was attempting to overthrow the president, they would be dealt with swiftly. In this situation, its the DPRK which is a highly misunderstood country and all of their actions are blown out of proportion to make them seem like the bogeyman that the west paints them out to be.
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Post 13 Dec 2013, 00:51
That was quick! A few days ago he was being accused of womanising and now it's changed to him planning on overthrowing the government?!

Last week, I'm sure I read that two other party members had been executed as well.

That's some fast-track executions!
Now what is this…
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Post 13 Dec 2013, 01:24
"Thrice cursed"! I'd love to be the guy who writes up these official state announcements. Seriously, this guy must sit around all day reading ancient Roman panegyrics. I wonder how I could get in on this line of work?

Dynastic politics in the Realm of the Wonder Kims is taking on a new and deadly turn. Although, to be fair, this was hardly unexpected. After all, IN THE END, THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 07 Dec 2013, 14:24
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Post 13 Dec 2013, 14:00
Does anybody here have any faith in the legal process in the DPRK? Do they believe he is really guilty as charged? Surely they can see through this show trail. It’s absurd. Come on, how naive must you be to believe he is/was guilty as charged? Far from misunderstanding North Korea we can see it for what it really is; a fascist regime.
Normally the official press releases from the regime are unintentionally hilarious but this time I’m not laughing.
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Post 13 Dec 2013, 14:07
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That was quick! A few days ago he was being accused of womanising and now it's changed to him planning on overthrowing the government?!

Last week, I'm sure I read that two other party members had been executed as well.

That's some fast-track executions!

Womanising
Treason
Dropping litter
Not cheering enough at the end of a dear leaders speech
Watching a foreign film

Does the charge really matter? If the regime wants to eliminate you then they find an excuse.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 06 Dec 2009, 23:17
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Post 13 Dec 2013, 17:03
I don't care. He certainly deserved it anyway by being in the highest echelons of power in that anti-worker and anti-human ruling party.
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Post 13 Dec 2013, 19:56
North Korea isn't even trying to keep up the pretense of being different from how its western critics portray it. Reading the full transcript of the announcement they openly talk about how only the Kim family can ever lead North Korea and debate etc is actively discouraged. Under Kim Jong Il this would all have been done hush hush so the North could deny it ever happened at all. Hopefully this is a sign of the regime unravelling.
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Post 13 Dec 2013, 23:14
I'll just reiterate a comment I made elsewhere:
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To be fair, most of the actual charges against Jang were that he was exceptionally corrupt and that he was confronted with this fact various times in the past. Corruption is a big problem in the DPRK and Jang is identified by Western analysts as having been a "pro-market" figure, meaning that it's quite likely he wanted to liberalize trade and other rules to legitimize the illicit profits he was already making.

Of course this doesn't mean those denouncing him aren't corrupt themselves.
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Post 14 Dec 2013, 03:56
In the days of the Roman Empire, whenever a new Emperor was elected, one of the first tasks of the Praetorian Guard was to locate and destroy as many of that Emperor's relatives as possible (outside of his immediate family and offspring). A wholesale slaughter of uncles, aunts, nieces, nephews, cousins, and in-laws was the norm. It's no surprise that dynastic politics in modern DPRK follows upon the same principle.
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Post 14 Dec 2013, 14:58
Comrade Gulper wrote:
In the days of the Roman Empire, whenever a new Emperor was elected, one of the first tasks of the Praetorian Guard was to locate and destroy as many of that Emperor's relatives as possible (outside of his immediate family and offspring). A wholesale slaughter of uncles, aunts, nieces, nephews, cousins, and in-laws was the norm. It's no surprise that dynastic politics in modern DPRK follows upon the same principle.
Except, of course, none of that happened when Kim Jong Il took power and there's no evidence that any other family members of Kim Jong Un will be purged. The West has been speculating for the past two years that his uncle had a "mentoring" or otherwise controlling role over him. It's likely more people will be arrested, but some observers tend to take the "DPRK is a monarchy" analysis a bit too literally.
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Post 14 Dec 2013, 16:56
North Korea is reportedly recalling its business people situated in China to return to NK. It's been suggested Kim Jong-un may be "purging associates of Mr Chang, who was in charge of economic ties with China".
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Post 14 Dec 2013, 21:38
The Trots over at WSWS speculate that purging Jang is a move towards a rapprochement with the USA, which is hard to believe. More likely is that purging the pro-market/pro-Chinese faction allows Kim to be more assertive in his dealings with China, which has long since wanted to open up the DPRK's economy and have it adopt a less "defiant" foreign policy course. Jang had privately fallen from grace in 2004 under Kim Jong Il only to be rehabilitated two years later, which suggests this faction has had considerable influence.
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Post 14 Dec 2013, 23:53
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More likely is that purging the pro-market/pro-Chinese faction allows Kim to be more assertive in his dealings with China, which has long since wanted to open up the DPRK's economy and have it adopt a less "defiant" foreign policy course. Jang had privately fallen from grace in 2004 under Kim Jong Il only to be rehabilitated two years later, which suggests this faction has had considerable influence.


That's exactly what I thought as well. Given the types of people who are mourning Jang and the effects of market "reforms" on places like Laos, Vietnam, and of course, China; I will have no pity for him. Though I do wonder how long Pak Pong-ju (Who IIRC was associated with Jang) will continue to have his job.
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Post 15 Dec 2013, 22:46
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He's turned out to be a frightful little shit. Couldn't he have just put the guy in prison? I take it those businesspeople in China being recalled are not going to be in a hurry.
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Post 16 Dec 2013, 04:09
Is China under any sort of compulsion to forcibly return these people if some of them prefer instead to stay there, perhaps becoming "DPRK policy experts"? I also wonder if China might turn a blind eye if some of them end up choosing to fly to ROK, Japan, or some other destination instead of obeying Kim's summons.
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Post 28 Dec 2013, 00:30
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Couldn't he have just put the guy in prison?


Why? So the West can try to induce Korea to free Jang from prison so he can do what his partner Hwang Jang-yop failed to do? So that if they invaded the North or Kim Jong-un and/or the Worker's Party was otherwise overthrown, that he would restore capitalism and turn it into a rescource neo-colony to Western, Japanese, Chinese, Russian, and South Korean corporations? I've read Alejandro Cao de Buenos' blog a while ago and the impression I have had of Jang (based on that and other articles I've read about this) was that of a would-be oligarch who used his party position to serve and enrich himself. If you want to condemn Korea for executing a counter-revolutionary who was most likely trying to restore capitalism to the North, then don't be a hypocrite and start condemning Stalin for killing Vlasov and Bukharin. For that matter, condemn every single communist who ever executed counter-revolutionaries. Now I'll let everybody get back to mourning the latest innocent man to fall victim to the horrors of totalitarian communism.
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Post 28 Dec 2013, 01:16
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Why? So the West can try to induce Korea to free Jang from prison so he can do what his partner Hwang Jang-yop failed to do? So that if they invaded the North or Kim Jong-un and/or the Worker's Party was otherwise overthrown, that he would restore capitalism and turn it into a rescource neo-colony to Western, Japanese, Chinese, Russian, and South Korean corporations? I've read Alejandro Cao de Buenos' blog a while ago and the impression I have had of Jang (based on that and other articles I've read about this) was that of a would-be oligarch who used his party position to serve and enrich himself.


Do you have any evidence for this other than from North Korean newspapers and Spanish stooges for the DPRK government? At least Hwang Jang-Yop defected to South Korea and has openly conducted anti-DPRK activity there. We know from sources independent of the DPRK government (and western media before you start) that Hwang is anti-DPRK. If I'd asked you a month ago what you thought of Jang Song-Thaek you would never have accused him of all of the things you now accuse him of.

And speaking of self-enrichment, what do you make of Kim Jong-Un's wife and her penchant for Dior handbags?

What about Dennis Rodman's descriptions of Kim's "seven star" lifestyle? If he's lying and trying to slander the DPRK, why does Kim continue to allow him back into the DPRK and have access to high-level meetings and events (including with Kim himself)?

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If you want to condemn Korea for executing a counter-revolutionary who was most likely trying to restore capitalism to the North, then don't be a hypocrite and start condemning Stalin for killing Vlasov and Bukharin. For that matter, condemn every single communist who ever executed counter-revolutionaries.


Because if you read it in a North Korean press release it must be true!

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Now I'll let everybody get back to mourning the latest innocent man to fall victim to the horrors of totalitarian communism.


Luckily, North Korea is nothing like what a socialist or communist society should be. They don't even call themselves communist or Marxist anymore! It's just a king executing a member of court.
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Post 28 Dec 2013, 16:43
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Why? So the West can try to induce Korea to free Jang from prison so he can do what his partner Hwang Jang-yop failed to do? So that if they invaded the North or Kim Jong-un and/or the Worker's Party was otherwise overthrown, that he would restore capitalism and turn it into a rescource neo-colony to Western, Japanese, Chinese, Russian, and South Korean corporations? I've read Alejandro Cao de Buenos' blog a while ago and the impression I have had of Jang (based on that and other articles I've read about this) was that of a would-be oligarch who used his party position to serve and enrich himself. If you want to condemn Korea for executing a counter-revolutionary who was most likely trying to restore capitalism to the North, then don't be a hypocrite and start condemning Stalin for killing Vlasov and Bukharin. For that matter, condemn every single communist who ever executed counter-revolutionaries. Now I'll let everybody get back to mourning the latest innocent man to fall victim to the horrors of totalitarian communism.


Good to see you again. I really missed posts like this. It takes a special kind of delusion to argue that "they" could "invade the North" any time in the near future. But anyway, you've caught me with my pants down: yes, I totally want the DPRK to become a "resource neo-colony" (nice terminology: it's like Lenin never existed, and imperialism is not the highest stage of capitalism, but just resource extraction) for western, Japanese, Chinese, Russian and South Korean corporations. Right now, it's mostly Chinese and South Korean corporations, and in the spirit of the free market, it would be incredibly unfair for others to miss out.

I don't doubt that Jang's political and economic intentions were as outlined by the fat Spanish aristocrat. But how odd that a sneaky capitalist-roader could have hid himself in the National Defence Commission, right next to Kim Jong-il, for so long. Oh wait, it's not that odd at all, because that was just part of "reforms" that were being conducted very openly. It must have been quite a chore to erase him from all the pictures that placed him right next to both Kims looking at things. Whatever political errors Jang may have made, Kim Jong-il must have been equally guilty of them. Yet one guy is now a corpse riddled with bullets, while the other is a corpse hailed as the Eternal Leader. And King Joffrey doesn't come out smelling of roses either, considering Jang's role in his succession and the fact that he continued to elevate Jang up until very recently. I suppose it must have been the unenthusiastic clapping, the refusal to build more monuments, and the sexual deviancy that made him worse than a dog, rather than his crime of building a bridge to China.

I don't know why you bring up Bukharin. You must have confused me with someone who backs every single execution of the Stalin period to the hilt, but that's not me. Some right-oppositionists were simply well-intentioned, but wrong-headed or opportunist types, who had to be stopped somehow, or they would have accelerated the collapse of the Soviet Union, which happened anyway, despite all the killings. A different matter entirely (and it's typical political immaturity to fail to see the distinction) is out-and-out fascist traitors like Vlasov, whom even the most ardent opponents of the death penalty will admit will not be missed.

In any case, that was then, and now is now. We can think of any number of justifications for Stalin-era purges, but in 2013 AD (or Juche 102, if you will) the bottom line is that anyone on the left with a modicum of principles categorically rejects capital punishment. Even when it comes to "executing counter-revolutionaries", it didn't work, it would not have worked even if they had gotten around to killing Khrushchev, and it won't work today. The Jangs, Dengs, and Khrushchevs of this world should not have gotten to their positions in the first place. They should have been fought and defeated by the working class politically, rather than bureaucratically by a name on a death list, otherwise new versions of them will simply take their place.
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Post 30 Dec 2013, 00:00
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Right now, it's mostly Chinese and South Korean corporations


What is your evidence that the North his reverted to capitalism? Is it because of the Lenin and Marx portraits? Portraits prove nothing as China has never removed Mao's face from Tienamen Square and his face is still on every single renminbi note. Because they work with and trade with capitalist countries? By that logic, Stalin must have restored capitalism to the USSR when he entered into numerous joint ventures with Western corporations. These joint ventures were necessary to build the USSR's industry, and similar measures are required by Korea today to modernise its energy, industrial, and technological capabilities and to obtain hard currency for basic essentials. As long as private property remains outlawed in the DPRK, then I will say that capitalist relations has not been restored.

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But how odd that a sneaky capitalist-roader could have hid himself in the National Defence Commission, right next to Kim Jong-il, for so long.


Plenty of opportunists were able to worm their way into high position of power so that they can be misused; after all, it is very common to mis-judge somebody's character. People like Deng and Gorbachev gained power precisely because the purging mechanisms were too weak to stop them.

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the bottom line is that anyone on the left with a modicum of principles categorically rejects capital punishment.


Capital punishment will be necessary, at least during a revolution to remove dangerous people from society. I am not somebody who advocates mass killings, I am just realistic about the costs of revolution.

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Even when it comes to "executing counter-revolutionaries", it didn't work, it would not have worked even if they had gotten around to killing Khrushchev, and it won't work today.


It was necessary to execute Jang because he was a ringleader of a conspiracy to overthrow the DPRK government that has been going on since at least the mid-1990s. Now that both him and his ally Hwang Jang-yop are dead, the pro-capitalist faction has lost their major leaders.

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In any case, that was then, and now is now.


That's an extremely easy thing to say when you live in a first-world country that isn't being sanctioned by the Imperialist UN Security Council, and is primarily being threatened by three countries, the United States, South Korea, which has its military spending partially subsidised by the US, and Japan, whose Prime Minister and his associates have a bad habit of denying that there a nothing wrong with what Japan did in the 1930s and early 1940s. How is it anything unlike the situation faced by Stalin in the 1930s? I don't deny that the North Korean government has committed excesses, just as the Soviet government committed its own excesses during the Great Purge. In order to truly what is happening in North Korean society, it is necessary to see why these excesses were/ are being committed in the first place.
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Post 30 Dec 2013, 00:30
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What is your evidence that the North his reverted to capitalism?

It doesn't have to revert to anything since it wasn't socialist in the first place.

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By that logic, Stalin must have restored capitalism to the USSR when he entered into numerous joint ventures with Western corporations.

No as the USSR, likewise, had never been socialist.

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As long as private property remains outlawed in the DPRK, then I will say that capitalist relations has not been restored.
I don't think that's the main point in what defines say capitalist relations of production. In NK you have wage labor and commodity production, alienation of producers from the products of their labor and any sort of influence on planning, accumulation and so on all coupled with unprecedented military-party tyranny and disrespect of basic human and democratic rights.

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Plenty of opportunists were able to worm their way into high position of power so that they can be misused; after all, it is very common to mis-judge somebody's character. People like Deng and Gorbachev gained power precisely because the purging mechanisms were too weak to stop them.

Deng and Gorbachov were almost universally supported by their parties when they came to power so they could not have possibly been "purged" since they were doing what the rest of the party wanted.
And that little fat bastard is an opportunist par excellence, since he gained power by his father's wish and not because he did something useful.

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It was necessary to execute Jang because he was a ringleader of a conspiracy to overthrow the DPRK government that has been going on since at least the mid-1990s. Now that both him and his ally Hwang Jang-yop are dead, the pro-capitalist faction has lost their major leaders.

No one but hardcore Jucheists believes that crap.

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I don't deny that the North Korean government has committed excesses, just as the Soviet government committed its own excesses during the Great Purge.

That wasn't about "excesses , it was a planned campaign of organized murder.
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