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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 20 Jul 2007, 06:59
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Post 20 Aug 2010, 20:46
UPI wrote:

S. Korea blocks access to North's tweets

South Korea officials say they are blocking citizens' access to North Korea's Twitter account to prevent exposure to online propaganda.

"When South Korean nationals want to contact North Koreans, they should do so according to our law," Lee Jong-ju, spokeswoman for the South's Unification Ministry, told The Christian Science Monitor. "We already blocked it."

The South also has made it illegal for its citizens to visit North Korea Web sites, the U.S. online newspaper said. Those who try to access North Korea sites will see the word "Warning" next to the initials for the Korea Communications Standards Commission and hear an announcement that the site is illegal.

"It shows they don't trust their own people," Michael Breen, who runs a consulting service in Seoul, told the Monitor.

"In a democracy, citizens should be allowed to make up their minds about dictatorship. There's always been this fear that people, if exposed to North Korea, will fall for it."

The controversy comes at a time when North Korea has apparently opened an account on Facebook, Yonhap news agency reported. Posts on http://facebook.com/uriminzokkiri have included statements from North Korea's Foreign Ministry and landscape photos.

U.S. officials say they disagree with South Korea's strict Internet access policies.

Experts believe only the elite in North Korea have access to electronic communications.

Yonhap noted the Koreas are technically at war and relations soured with the March sinking of a South Korean warship. South Korea, the United States and their allies say they believe North Korea torpedoed the Cheonan, killing 46 sailors. The North has denied any role.
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Post 21 Aug 2010, 01:38
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The controversy comes at a time when North Korea has apparently opened an account on Facebook, Yonhap news agency reported. Posts on http://facebook.com/uriminzokkiri have included statements from North Korea's Foreign Ministry and landscape photos.


Does this work for anybody? The page you requested was not found.

Also, yeah. One stupid state bitching at another stupid state. I dunno. Normal.
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Post 21 Aug 2010, 09:06
Also the .kp domain, which DPRK is entitled to use, seems to be blocked for the country, although DPRK had requested to use their country domain.
Anybody knows more about this? Is USA simply blocking internet access in the DPRK? (practically all domain name servers reside in the USA).
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Post 21 Aug 2010, 09:14
It doesn't seem to work for me, either. I have no way of knowing if it's been censored due to action from the US government, protests from South Korea, or if Kim simply ordered it taken down. But one thing's for sure, it's no longer there.

Edit: is this it? http://www.facebook.com/uriminzokkiri#! ... ike?ref=ts
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Post 21 Aug 2010, 14:25
Before you click on Order's link I should warn you there's some pretty graphic photos on there!

I think the original link was just posted wrong.
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Post 21 Aug 2010, 16:19
The original link doesn't work from my angle. Neither does Order's link for that matter.

Is the second link working for other people?
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Post 21 Aug 2010, 16:26
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The original link doesn't work from my angle. Neither does Order's link for that matter.
Is the second link working for other people?


Do you have a Facebook account Shigalyov? As if not that might be why you can't view it.

The second link still works for me and the photos are still up!
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Post 21 Aug 2010, 18:40
The page was real, I was there before it disappeared when this thread was started. I'm curious as to what articles exist about the internet in North Korea.
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Post 22 Aug 2010, 12:28
Szabo wrote:
Do you have a Facebook account Shigalyov? As if not that might be why you can't view it.
The second link still works for me and the photos are still up!

Not exactly. I made a dummy one once so I could check some things out. Maybe I should see if logging into it helps the matter. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Yep... That does the trick.
Are we sure this site was set up North Korean leadership? Looks a lot more like anti North Korea site to me.

Szabo wrote:
Before you click on Order's link I should warn you there's some pretty graphic photos on there!
You're not kidding. I think I wanna puke.
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Post 22 Aug 2010, 12:45
I didn't poke around too deeply on that page when I posted the link. I simply found the page through a quick Google search and put the correct link up for others who desired it. So I didn't see any of those photos until Szabo pointed them out. I still don't get the point of the page.
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Post 22 Aug 2010, 20:59
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Post 23 Aug 2010, 08:13
Having seen the DPRK Facebook page, I wish they would have never done it/would just shut it down. It's become a haven for people posting things for shits and giggles and for right-wing ignorant trolls to spew their usual bullshit.

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Are we sure this site was set up North Korean leadership? Looks a lot more like anti North Korea site to me.

As far as I can tell, a lot of the things posted are just crap put up by aforementioned right-wingers and assorted trolls. The mods are certainly not very active.

I do find it weird that they would have "FOR THE DEAR LEADER" on the page. The use of all-caps reminds me of the style I would use when poking fun of hysterical right-wingers, and a Korean friend of mine says that they Romanized the name wrong.
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Post 26 Aug 2010, 19:20
The videos posted on the youtube site are quite nice, but then as a non-Korean speaker, I do miss english subtitles. More people would be able to understand what the video is about if it were subtitled. Or a description would also be usefull.
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Post 26 Aug 2010, 19:26
These sites might not be run by the DPRK after all...

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/socia ... sh-youtube
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Government denies involvement
What’s intriguing is that the North Korean government denies that it has anything to do with the new sites. Forbes magazine quotes an unnamed government official as saying that the accounts are run by government supporters, not government officials, living in Japan and China, not North Korea. Those social media sites are still banned in North Korea, says the official. Nevertheless, the Twitter account gives the location as Pyongyang.

But even if the government is not actually running the accounts, they are being advertised on the Home Page of uriminzokkiri.com, which carries the latest official news from North Korea, and is only available in Korean, though the servers are actually located in Shenyang, China. This suggests that the target audience is South Koreans and North Korean exiles worldwide.

The Official Webpage of The Democratic People's Republic of Korea for international visitors is actually run by the Korean Friendship Association, and does not have any links to the YouTube and Twitter pages. The servers for this site are located in Germany, but the people who run it are in Spain, and have Spanish names, although they all include 'Government of the DPR of Korea' in their contact address.

All the 'North Korean' websites mentioned in this article are actually hosted on servers located in other countries. It's quite common for websites to use servers outside their country of registration, but it makes it difficult to find out who's really behind these sites.


On the other hand, China has also blocked Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter (I think?), so I don't know if that's true or not.
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Post 31 Aug 2010, 00:43
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All the north korean official sites :

Website : http://www.uriminzokkiri.com/2010/index.php
Youtube DPRK : http://www.youtube.com/user/uriminzokkiri
Twitter DPRK : http://twitter.com/uriminzok
Facebook DPRK : http://www.facebook.com/uriminzokkiriLike?ref=ts
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From what do you infer that these sites are 'official' korean sites?
To my knowledge the DPRK government denies that it has any involvement in them, and allegedly are from DPRK supporters.

The official DPRK sites are:
http://www.naenara.kp/en/ Official DPRK site
http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm Official DPRK news agency
http://www.korea-dpr.com/ Official DPRK & KFA site
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