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What do you know about communist Bulgaria?

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Post 23 Sep 2006, 20:10
What do you know about the communist People's republic of Bulgaria? Have you heard about Georgi Dimitrov and Todor Zhivkov? If you are interested read this
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... t_Bulgaria
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Post 23 Sep 2006, 20:21
I know little and I will read the link you posted.

I am curious as to the transition out of communism. the BSP seems to be more of a Social Democrat party. as do most of the other 'socialist'parties in eastern europe.

is there any socialism still in action in bulgaria?
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Post 23 Sep 2006, 21:23
The transition in Bulgaria was very peaceful... The BCP alone made a coup d'état...at the first democratic elections the BSP won 52%
after that the Union of democratic forces \UDF\ began making demonstrations and eventualy it won...but there is something specific in bulgarian politics...there is one minor turkish party that decides who will rule \MRF\ because BSP and UDF make alone 40% and they are equal


In Bulgaria there are still some remains of the socialist rule... Education is still free, the city Dimitrovgrad \named after Dimitrov(bulgarian Lenin)\, many socialist monuments...and still many.

Almolst 40% of the bulgarians want Socialism to return, which is high.

The Premier, President, Mayor of Sofia, chairman of the National Assembly, the chief prosecutor, the chief of the people's police... and so on, are members of the BSP so it is still technical in power
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Post 23 Sep 2006, 21:36
has healthcare been privatised?
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Post 23 Sep 2006, 21:46
Healthcare is like the yugoslavian model if you know it... The hospitals belong to the state, but doctors manage them...it is hard to explain. The people of bulgaria do not pay for pills, or when someone is hurted he is being under free of pay treatment. Also if you are under the social minimum you dont have to pay

But if you want a expensive operation you have to pay ofcourse.
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Post 23 Sep 2006, 21:56
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But if you want a expensive operation you have to pay ofcourse.


what say you have good income, and you need a tumor removed from your lung... is that paid by the state or the individual?

in other words is there a need for insurance?
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Post 23 Sep 2006, 22:07
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what say you have good income

Well.. our taxes are very very high.
Insurance, yes there is. But the people are still poor and dont make insurances.
chaz171 wrote:
tumor removed from your lung... is that paid by the state or the individual

Isn't that a serious health problem? I thing people paid it. The state pays smaller things

Everything in BG is chaos so dont surprise
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Post 23 Sep 2006, 22:53
I know very little of it, because even the Wikipedia link isn't all that great, but I do know that Dimitrov was a great man. The communist anti-fascist former resistance fighters in my country still use his definition of fascism, and his heroism in front of the Nazi court, as an example.
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Post 23 Sep 2006, 23:40
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Insurance, yes there is. But the people are still poor and dont make insurances


Yes so it does have the western poisons such as insurance...

This I never liked because it allows someone to capitalize on one's health..

how far is education still free? can you still go thru university or doctorate level?
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Post 24 Sep 2006, 09:47
well education is free to almost all students. Every year students candidate in universeties and those who successfully make the exams enter for free. Those who don't make it will wait to the next year or go to private universities...
But there are plans for the education to become fully payed
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Post 24 Sep 2006, 12:19
I have the Selected Works of Georgi Dimitrov, printed in 3 volumes, back in the socialist days of Bulgaria.
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Post 24 Sep 2006, 17:47
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But there are plans for the education to become fully payed


ugh,

slowly but surely sliding towards the right..
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Post 24 Sep 2006, 19:20
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But there are plans for the education to become fully payed


Are the students doing something to prevent that?
Here in Argentina, we also have free universities. However, there have been plans to charge for them for years. But the students and teachers went on strikes, marches, and several measures taken to prevent that.
As usual, the only solution is to take it into the streets.


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Post 24 Sep 2006, 19:35
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Here in Argentina, we also have free universities


does argentina have social medicine?
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Post 24 Sep 2006, 19:46
yes, we do. It's all leftovers of our old welfare state. During the 90's, the neolibral reforms tried to tear it apart, but we still have some things left.

They might not be as good as they were before, and there are some private medical centers that are better. But most of the population still uses public healthcare.

But, let's not hijack the thread... this one is about Bulgaria


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Post 25 Sep 2006, 05:23
How is pay in Bulgaria ? Do you work 8 hours a day or 10 hours a day in week?

And would you say 50% of people in bulgarians are middle class?Any plans on joining other countries?
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Post 25 Sep 2006, 18:44
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How is pay in Bulgaria ? Do you work 8 hours a day or 10 hours a day in week?

And would you say 50% of people in bulgarians are middle class?Any plans on joining other countries?

There is 8-9 hours workday, the normal salary in Bulgaria is 80-160 Euros
Bulgaria is joining the European Union in 2007 so the life will be very hard from now on because prices are geting higher and higher
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Post 26 Sep 2006, 06:14
80 Euros = 113.824 Canadian money
160 Euros = 227.668 Canadian money

Money conversion web site!

http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi
http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi
http://www.xe.com/ucc/

Well most people make $20 hour in Canada some $30 hour if you are lucky and $15 hour for the not so lucky. If I got $113 or $227 hour in Canada I would be rich.


Do you have many jobs to choose from what about homeless and unemployment is it high or low?
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Post 26 Sep 2006, 07:41
you do understand that 80 Euros in Bulgaria is being payed for 1 month?
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Post 26 Sep 2006, 08:19
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you do understand that 80 Euros in Bulgaria is being payed for 1 month?


I think working at fast food place in Canada for $7 hour I would have way more money than you.

No Canadian cannot live on 113 a month .Well every thing must be much lower in your country.What does a home cost?
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