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A question on Nicolae Ceausescu

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 22 May 2005, 15:47
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Post 18 Jul 2005, 00:27
Trial and execution (and burying) of Nicolae and Elena Ceaucescu)
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This video lasts 1 hour. That's the original length of the "trial" (which must be called kidnapping) and "execution" (i. e. assassination). The scenes of their burial make me sick. I've got a degree in Law so this trial makes me sick from the start to the end.

The clique that kidnapped Ceaucescu were, as you'll see, military. These people were quasi fascists if not fascists, reactionaries that were planning the coup long before 1989.

I have seen with my own eyes a film made by the spanish secret service (CESID) in 1989 BEFORE this coup. So you have the proof that imperialism WORKS FROM THE INSIDE to sabotage and overthrow socialism. If the CESID was there, knowing Spain counts for nothing in the world, where would the CIA not be? And the british, the french, the german...

All communist or simply progressive people MUST abandon all naiveté and all ready-made preconceptions like "Stalin-bad", "Ceaucescu-bad", or, as says Michel Collon, the ideology of "neither-nor" ("ni-ni"): "neither Stalin nor Bush", "neither Bush nor the ayatollahs"...

Here you have an abridged transcription of the "trial" of Ceaucescu, it's a little long, excuse me!:

TRANSCRIPT OF THE CLOSED TRIAL OF NICOLAE AND ELENA CEAUSESCU (abridged)
Military base Tirgoviste - December 25th 1989


*** PROSECUTOR Gica POPA ***

General Gica POPA, "killed himself" in March 1990 !?!

__________________________________________________

A voice: A glass of water !


NICOLAE CEAUSESCU: I only recognize the Grand National Assembly. I
will only speak in front of it.


PROSECUTOR: In the same way he refused to hold a dialogue with the
people, now he also refuses to speak with us. He always claimed to act
and speak on behalf of the people, to be a beloved son of the people,
but he only tyrannized the people all the time. You are faced with
charges that you held really sumptuous celebrations on all holidays at
your house. The details are known. These two defendants procured the
most luxurious foodstuffs and clothes from abroad. They were even
worse than the king, the former king of Romania. The people only
received 200 grams per day, against an identity card. These two
defendants have robbed the people, and not even today do they want to
talk. They are cowards. We have data concerning both of them. I ask
the chairman of the prosecutor's office to read the bill of
indictment.


CHIEF PROSECUTOR: Esteemed chairman of the court, today we have to
pass a verdict on the defendants Nicolae Ceausescu and Elena Ceausescu
who have committed the following offenses: Crimes against the people.
They carried out acts that are incompatible with human dignity and
social thinking; they acted in a despotic and criminal way; they
destroyed the people whose leaders they claimed to be. Because of the
crimes they committed against the people, I plead, on behalf of the
victims of these two tyrants, for the death sentence for the two
defendants. The bill of indictment contains the following points:
Genocide, in accordance with Article 356 of the penal code. Two: Armed
attack on the people and the state power, in accordance with Article
163 of the penal code. The destruction of buildings and state
institutions, undermining of the national economy, in accordance with
Articles 165 and 145 of the penal code. They obstructed the normal
process of the economy.

PROSECUTOR: Did you hear the charges? Have you understood them?

CEAUSESCU: I do not answer, I will only answer questions before the
Grand National Assembly. I do not recognize this court. The charges
are incorrect, and I will not answer a single question here.

PROSECUTOR: Note: He does not recognize the points mentioned in the
bill of indictment.

CEAUSESCU: I will not sign anything.

PROSECUTOR: This situation is known. The catastrophic situation of the
country is known all over the world. Every honest citizen who worked
hard here until 22 December knows that we do not have medicines, that
you two have killed children and other people in this way, that there
is nothing to eat, no heating, no electricity.

Elena and Nicolae reject this. Another question to Ceausescu: Who
ordered the bloodbath in Timisoara. Ceausescu refused to answer.

PROSECUTOR: Who gave the order to shoot in Bucharest, for instance?

CEAUSESCU: I do not answer.

PROSECUTOR: Who ordered shooting into the crowd? Tell us!

At that moment Elena says to Nicolae: Forget about them. You see,
there is no use in talking to these people.

PROSECUTOR: Do you not know anything about the order to shoot?

Nicolae reacts with astonishment.

There is still shooting going on, the prosecutor says. Fanatics, whom
you are paying. They are shooting at children; they are shooting
arbitrarily into the apartments. Who are these fanatics? Are they the
people, or are you paying them?

CEAUSESCU: I will not answer. I will not answer any question. Not a
single shot was fired in Palace Square. Not a single shot. No one was
shot.

PROSECUTOR: By now, there have been 34 casualties.

Elena says: Look, and that they are calling genocide.

PROSECUTOR: In all district capitals, which you grandly called
municipalities, there is shooting going on. The people were slaves.
The entire intelligentsia of the country ran away. No one wanted to do
anything for you anymore.

UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. President, I would like to know something:
The accused should tell us who the mercenaries are. Who pays them? And
who brought them into the country?

PROSECUTOR: Yes. Accused, answer.

CEAUSESCU: I will not say anything more. I will only speak at the
Grand National Assembly.

Elena keeps whispering to him. As a result, the prosecutor says: Elena
has always been talkative, but otherwise she does not know much. I
have observed that she is not even able to read correctly, but she
calls herself an university graduate. Elena answers: The intellectuals
of this country should hear you, you and your colleagues.

The prosecutor cites all academic titles she had always claimed to
have.

ELENA CEAUSESCU: The intelligentsia of the country will hear what you
are accusing us of.

PROSECUTOR: Nicolae Ceausescu should tell us why he does not answer
our questions. What prevents him from doing so?

CEAUSESCU: I will answer any question, but only at the Grand National
Assembly, before the representatives of the working class. Tell the
people that I will answer all their questions. All the world should
know what is going on here. I only recognize the working class and the
Grand National Assembly -- no one else.

The prosecutor says: The world already knows what has happened here.

I will not answer you putschists, Ceausescu says.

PROSECUTOR: The Grand National Assembly has been dissolved.

CEAUSESCU: This is not possible at all. No one can dissolve the
National Assembly.

PROSECUTOR: We now have another leading organ. The National Salvation
Front is now our supreme body.

CEAUSESCU: No one recognizes that. That is why the people are fighting
all over the country. This gang will be destroyed. They organized the
putsch.

PROSECUTOR: The people are fighting against you, not against the new
forum.

CEAUSESCU: No, the people are fighting for freedom and against the new
forum. I do not recognize the court.

PROSECUTOR: Why do you think that people are fighting today? What do
you think?

Ceausescu answers: As I said before, the people are fighting for their
freedom and against this putsch, against this usurpation. Ceausescu
claims that the putsch was organized from abroad.

CEAUSESCU: I do not recognize this court. I will not answer any more.
I am now talking to you as simple citizens, and I hope that you will
tell the truth. I hope that you do not also work for the foreigners
and for the destruction of Romania.

The prosecutor asks the counsel for the defense to ask Ceausescu
whether he knows that he is no longer president of the country, that
Elena Ceausescu has also lost all her official state functions and
that the government has been dissolved.

The prosecutor wants to find out on which basis the trial can be
continued. It must be cleared up whether Ceausescu wants to, should,
must or can answer at all. At the moment the situation is rather
uncertain.

Now the counsel for the defense, who was appointed by the court, asks
whether Nicolae and Elena Ceausescu know the aforementioned facts --
that he is no longer president, that she has lost all official
functions. He answers: I am the president of Romania, and I am the
commander in chief of the Romanian army. No one can deprive me of
these functions.

PROSECUTOR: But not of our army, you are not the commander in chief of
our army.

CEAUSESCU: I do not recognize you. I am talking to you as simple
citizens at the least, as simple citizens, and I tell you: I am the
president of Romania.

PROSECUTOR: What are you really?

CEAUSESCU: I repeat: I am the president of Romania and the commander
in chief of the Romanian army. I am the president of the people. I
will not speak with you provocateurs anymore, and I will not speak
with the organizers of the putsch and with the mercenaries. I have
nothing to do with them.

PROSECUTOR: Yes, but you are paying the mercenaries.

No, no, he says. And Elena says: It is incredible what they are
inventing, incredible.

PROSECUTOR: Please, make a note: Ceausescu does not recognize the new
legal structures of power of the country. He still considers himself
to be the country's president and the commander in chief of the army.

Why did you ruin the country so much: Why did you export everything?
Why did you make the peasants starve? The produce which the peasants
grew was exported, and the peasants came from the most remote
provinces to Bucharest and to the other cities in order to buy bread.
They cultivated the soil in line with your orders and had nothing to
eat. Why did you starve the people?

CEAUSESCU: I will not answer this question. As a simple citizen, I
tell you the following: For the first time I guaranteed that every
peasant received 200 kilograms of wheat per person, not per family,
and that he is entitled to more. It is a lie that I made the people
starve. A lie, a lie in my face. This shows how little patriotism
there is, how many treasonable offenses were committed.

PROSECUTOR: You claim to have taken measures so that every peasant is
entitled to 200 kilograms of wheat. Why do the peasants then buy their
bread in Bucharest?

The prosecutor quotes Ceausescu, Ceausescu's program.

PROSECUTOR: We have wonderful programs. Paper is patient. However, why
are your programs not implemented? You have destroyed the Romanian
villages and the Romanian soil. What do you say as a citizen?

CEAUSESCU: As a citizen, as a simple citizen, I tell you the
following: At no point was there such an upswing, so much
construction, so much consolidation in the Romanian provinces. I
guaranteed that every village has its schools, hospitals and doctors.
I have done everything to create a decent and rich life for the people
in the country, like in no other country in the world.

PROSECUTOR: We have always spoken of equality. We are all equal.
Everybody should be paid according to his performance. Now we finally
saw your villa on television, the golden plates from which you ate,
the foodstuffs that you had imported, the luxurious celebrations,
pictures from your luxurious celebrations.

ELENA CEAUSESCU: Incredible. We live in a normal apartment, just like
every other citizen. We have ensured an apartment for every citizen
through corresponding laws.

PROSECUTOR: You had palaces.

CEAUSESCU: No, we had no palaces. The palaces belong to the people.

The prosecutor agrees, but stresses that they lived in them while the
people suffered.

PROSECUTOR: Children cannot even buy plain candy, and you are living
in the palaces of the people.

CEAUSESCU: Is it possible that we are facing such charges?

PROSECUTOR: Let us now talk about the accounts in Switzerland, Mr.
Ceausescu. What about the accounts?

ELENA CEAUSESCU: Accounts in Switzerland? Furnish proof!

CEAUSESCU: We had no account in Switzerland. Nobody has opened an
account. This shows again how false the charges are. What defamation,
what provocations! This was a coup d'etat.

PROSECUTOR: Well, Mr. Defendant, if you had no accounts in
Switzerland, will you sign a statement confirming that the money that
may be in Switzerland should be transferred to the Romanian state, the
State Bank.

CEAUSESCU: We will discuss this before the Grand National Assembly. I
will not say anything here. This is a vulgar provocation.

PROSECUTOR: Will you sign the statement now or not?

CEAUSESCU: No, no. I have no statement to make, and I will not sign
one.

PROSECUTOR: Note the following: The defendant refuses to sign this
statement. The defendant has not recognized us. He also refuses to
recognize the new forum.

CEAUSESCU: I do not recognize this new forum.

PROSECUTOR: So you know the new forum. You have information about it.

Elena and Nicolae Ceasescu state: Well, you told us about it. You told
us about it here.

CEAUSESCU: Nobody can change the state structures. This is not
possible. Usurpers have been punished severely during the past
centuries in Romania's history. Nobody has the right to abolish the
Grand National Assembly.

The prosecutor turns to Elena: You have always been wiser and more
ready to talk, a scientist. You were the most important aide, the
number two in the cabinet, in the government.

PROSECUTOR: Did you know about the genocide in Timisoara?

ELENA CEAUSESCU: What genocide? By the way, I will not answer any more
questions.

PROSECUTOR: Did you know about the genocide or did you, as a chemist,
only deal with polymers? You, as a scientist, did you know about it?

Here Nicolae Ceausescu steps in and defends her.

CEAUSESCU: Her scientific papers were published abroad!

PROSECUTOR: And who wrote the papers for you, Elena?

ELENA CEAUSESCU: Such impudence! I am a member and the chairwoman of
the Academy of Sciences. You cannot talk to me in such a way!

PROSECUTOR: That is to say, as a deputy prime minister you did not
know about the genocide? PROSECUTOR: This is how you worked with the people and exercised your
functions! But who gave the order to shoot? Answer this question!

ELENA CEAUSESCU: I will not answer. I told you right at the beginning
that I will not answer a single question.

CEAUSESCU: You as officers should know that the government cannot give
the order to shoot. But those who shot at the young people were the
security men, the terrorists.

ELENA CEAUSESCU: The terrorists are from Securitate.

PROSECUTOR: The terrorists are from Securitate?

ELENA CEAUSESCU: Yes.

PROSECUTOR: And who heads Securitate? Another question . . . .

ELENA CEAUSESCU: No, I have not given an answer. This was only
information for you as citizens.

CEAUSESCU: I want to tell you as citizens that in Bucharest . . . .

PROSECUTOR: We are finished with you. You need not say anything else.
The next question is: How did Gen. Milea {Vasile Milea, Ceausescu's
defense minister} die? Was he shot? And by whom?

ELENA CEAUSESCU: Ask the doctors and the people, but not me!

CEAUSESCU: I will ask you a counterquestion. Why do you not put the
question like this: Why did Gen. Milea commit suicide?

PROSECUTOR: What induced him to commit suicide? You called him a
traitor. This was the reason for his suicide.

CEAUSESCU: The traitor Milea committed suicide.

PROSECUTOR: Why did you not bring him to trial and have him sentenced?

CEAUSESCU: His criminal acts were only discovered after he had
committed suicide.

PROSECUTOR: What were his criminal acts?

CEAUSESCU: He did not urge his unit to do their patriotic duty.

Ceausescu explains in detail that he only learned from his officers
that Gen. Milea had committed suicide. The prosecutor interrupts him.

PROSECUTOR: You have always been more talkative than your colleague.
However, she has always been at your side and apparently provided you
with the necessary information. However, we should talk here openly
and sincerely, as befits intellectuals. For, after all, both of you
are members of the Academy of Sciences.

Now tell us, please, what money was used to pay for your publications
abroad -- the selected works of Nicolae Ceausescu and the scientific
works of the so-called Academician Elena Ceausescu.

Elena says: So-called, so-called. Now they have even taken away all
our titles.

PROSECUTOR: Once again, back to Gen. Milea. You said that he had not
obeyed your orders. What orders?

CEAUSESCU: I will only answer to the Grand National Assembly. There I
will say in which way he betrayed his fatherland.

PROSECUTOR: Please, ask Nicolae and Elena Ceausescu whether they have
ever had a mental illness.

CEAUSESCU: What? What should he ask us?

PROSECUTOR: Whether you have ever had a mental illness.

CEAUSESCU: What an obscene provocation.

PROSECUTOR: This would serve your defense. If you had had a mental
illness and admitted this, you would not be responsible for your acts.

ELENA CEAUSESCU: How can one tell us something like this? How can one
say something like this?

CEAUSESCU: I do not recognize this court.

PROSECUTOR: You have never been able to hold a dialogue with the
people. You were not used to talking to the people. You held
monologues and the people had to applaud, like in the rituals of
tribal people. And today you are acting in the same megalomaniac way.
Now we are making a last attempt. Do you want to sign this statement?

CEAUSESCU: No, we will not sign. And I also do not recognize the
counsel for the defense.

PROSECUTOR: Please, make a note: Nicolae Ceausescu refuses to
cooperate with the court-appointed counsel for the defense.

ELENA CEAUSESCU: We will not sign any statement. We will speak only at
the National Assembly, because we have worked hard for the people all
our lives. We have sacrificed all our lives to the people. And we will
not betray our people here.

The court notes that the investigations have been concluded. Then
follows the reading of the indictment.

PROSECUTOR: Mr. Chairman, we find the two accused guilty of having
committed criminal actions according to the following articles of the
penal code: Articles 162, 163, 165 and 357. Because of this
indictment, I call for the death sentence and the impounding of the
entire property of the two accused.

The counsel for the defense now takes the floor and instructs the
Ceausescus once again that they have the right to defense and that
they should accept this right.

COUNSEL FOR THE DEFENSE: Even though he -- like her -- committed
insane acts, we want to defend them. We want a legal trial. Only a
president who is still confirmed in his position can demand to speak
at the Grand National Assembly. If he no longer has a certain
function, he cannot demand anything at all. Then he is treated like a
normal citizen. Since the old government has been dissolved and
Ceausescu has lost his functions, he no longer has the right to be
treated as the president. Please make a note that here it has been
stated that all legal regulations have been observed, that this is a
legal trial. Therefore, it is a mistake for the two accused to refuse
to cooperate with us. This is a legal trial, and I honor them by
defending them.

At the beginning, Ceausescu claimed that it is a provocation to be
asked whether he was sick. He refused to undergo a psychiatric
examination. However, there is a difference between real sickness that
must be treated and mental insanity which leads to corresponding
actions, but which is denied by the person in question. You have acted
in a very irresponsible manner; you led the country to the verge of
ruin and you will be convicted on the basis of the points contained in
the bill of indictment. You are guilty of these offenses even if you
do not want to admit it. Despite this, I ask the court to make a
decision which we will be able to justify later as well. We must not
allow the slightest impression of illegality to emerge. Elena and
Nicolae Ceausescu should be punished in a really legal trial.

The two defendants should also know that they are entitled to a
counsel for defense, even if they reject this. It should be stated
once and for all that this military court is absolutely legal and that
the former positions of the two Ceausescus are no longer valid.
However, they will be indicted, and a sentence will be passed on the
basis of the new legal system. They are not only accused of offenses
committed during the past few days, but of offenses committed during
the past 25 years. We have sufficient data on this period. I ask the
court, as the plaintiff, to take note that proof has been furnished
for all these points, that the two have committed the offenses
mentioned. Finally, I would like to refer once more to the genocide,
the numerous killings carried out during the past few days. Elena and
Nicolae Ceausescu must be held fully responsible for this. I now ask
the court to pass a verdict on the basis of the law, because everybody
must receive due punishment for the offenses he has committed.

The final speech of the prosecutor follows:

PROSECUTOR: It is very difficult for us to act, to pass a verdict on
people who even now do not want to admit to the criminal offenses that
they have committed during 25 years and admit to the genocide, not
only in Timisoara and Bucharest, but primarily also to the criminal
offenses committed during the past 25 years. This demonstrates their
lack of understanding. They not only deprived the people of heating,
electricity, and foodstuffs, they also tyrannized the soul of the
Romanian people. They not only killed children, young people and
adults in Timisoara and Bucharest; they allowed Securitate members to
wear military uniforms to create the impression among the people that
the army is against them. They wanted to separate the people from the
army. They used to fetch people from orphans' homes or from abroad
whom they trained in special institutions to become murderers of their
own people. You were so impertinent as to cut off oxygen lines in
hospitals and to shoot people in their hospital beds. The Securitate
had hidden food reserves on which Bucharest could have survived for
months, the whole of Bucharest.

Whom are they talking about, Elena asks.

PROSECUTOR: So far, they have always claimed that we have built this
country, we have paid our debts, but with this they bled the country
to death and have hoarded enough money to ensure their escape. You
need not admit your mistakes, mister. In 1947, we assumed power, but
under completely different circumstances. In 1947, King Michael showed
more dignity than you. And you might perhaps have achieved the
understanding of the Romanian people if you had now admitted your
guilt. You should have stayed in Iran where you had flown to.

In response, the two laugh, and she says: We do not stay abroad. This
is our home.

PROSECUTOR: Esteemed Mr. Chairman, I have been one of those who, as a
lawyer, would have liked to oppose the death sentence, because it is
inhuman. But we are not talking about people. I would not call for the
death sentence, but it would be incomprehensible for the Romanian
people to have to go on suffering this great misery and not to have it
ended by sentencing the two Ceausescus to death. The crimes against
the people grew year by year. They were only busy enslaving the people
and building up an apparatus of power. They were not really interested
in the people.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 15 May 2005, 17:11
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Post 28 Jan 2006, 00:03
Ceaucescu is by far one of the greates morons of the 20th century, he really fragged Romania up, his government was very far from socialism/communism. His birth decree is just an example of his stupidity
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Post 28 Jan 2006, 15:06
I think I read that Romania's debt was finally paid off mid-1989. Do people think things would have got better if the events of late '89 didn't happen?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 25 Jan 2005, 10:55
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Post 30 Jan 2006, 13:27
Though some of you may think what they say of Romania is propaganda, its all true, and sometimes so bad it is too hard to believe. My father went there many times, for he had relatives who lived in Transylvania (land that was Hungarian under the Austro-Hungarian Empire but than separated ect.) and it was incredible.

Brand new nails in the stores were already bent, and tire insides already had holes in them, toilet paper was filled with holes, you needed at least 3 ply’s if you wanted to have a holeless piece, for some curious reason you could never get fresh bread, only day old bread, in stores it was unknown for there to be more than one type of grape and even in the late 70’s barely anybody had calculators (modernising indeed). Best of all were the Romanian cars; they had to be remade when they were imported because they were already rusty. This was because instead of storing the car chassis in a warehouse, they used an open field, tough luck if it rains! And instead of using a conveyor belt to move them (get this!), they poured oil onto the floor of the factory and dragged the cassis along with a tractor, no joke! In the car manual, it told you that if your suspension springs broke, you should go out into the forest, cut down a sapling and cut it into lengths around the same as he springs, and replace the broken suspension with the pieces of wood!
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 15 May 2005, 17:11
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Post 30 Jan 2006, 19:40
That's some sick shit, i believe you though, it was really really bad, the poorest communist country in eastern europe back then
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Post 31 Jan 2006, 06:59
It was crazy, absolutely crazy. My father said that coming from Hungary, the second most liberal and prosperous of Eastern European Socialist Dictatorships, people just couldn’t believe their eyes. All this caused some minor nationalism back in Hungary that people wanted to re-annex the Transylvania region back to their country. Unfortunately, some of this still exists now.
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Post 31 Jan 2006, 18:43
Yugoslavia was like freakin paradise compared to Romania, Yugoslavia was an open and good country and we had almost everything we wanted. The buildings in Bucarest are a good example of how shitty Romania was
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Post 01 Feb 2006, 08:23
On Yugoslavia, I was talking to my mother the other day and she told me that if somebody had gone back to her when she was still living in Hungary and said that it would be torn apart by civil war and nationalism and break into pieces she would have laughed them off. Back then a thought like that seemed as impossible as Australia or America splitting up and breaking apart in civil war.
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Post 01 Feb 2006, 12:45
Yeah you're damn right, the war was Frag crazy, Yugoslavia was really strong and united and there was absolutely no tension between for example Croats and Serbs and then suddenly it all came to an end
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Post 14 Nov 2006, 11:19
Resurrecting an old thread here, but I'm doing a course on Eastern Europe and have to write an essay on Ceausescu. This man was a completely deranged nutter. His policy of 'systemisation', of eradicating all heterogeneity from the population can only be called inhumane as he destroyed hundreds of villages and forced peopleout to the countryside. Banning abortion was ridiculous, and this, amongst other policies, made the woman's body a part of the state. Anyone with a typewriter had to register it with the Securitate, and had to register any conversation with a foreigner. Finally, his attempt to pay off the debts ruined the country even more as imports were not allowed as the debt HAD to be repayed.

His final speech (or part of it) is floating around on the net: it's hilarious as he has no idea what to do when the crowd boos him. He was certain that they all loved him so much, and believed the revolution to be the work of American and Russian spies and that the workers would come to his rescue. A man totally detatched from reality.
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Post 15 Nov 2006, 17:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b8wlobirzY


this is what i immediatly thought about when you mentioned that Ceausescu geniunely believed the people would save him.

Ian
Sure old people have died in their droves from the bitter cold of the warmest january on record, and they practically rot in their hospital beds and our prime minister is incapacitated in office..

But God damn it Britain is getting the job DONE.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 28 Oct 2009, 14:21
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Post 08 Nov 2009, 20:20
Dear Comrades

Thank you for your collective insight in this matter.

The link that Comrade Ian_Morre has kindly given , nolonger functions on Youtube. However, at this link;

Trial & Execution of the Ceausescu's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pk2rxHTrsQ&NR=1

It is a ten minute documentary that shows the key last day or so of the Ceausescu's - and focuses upon the soldier that guarded them, whilst they awaited their death sentence to be confirmed. And officer comes into the room and tells the soldier to take them out one at a time and shoot them. Upon hearing this, the Ceausescu's ask if they can die together. The soldier asks the officer on their behalf, and the officer agrees that they have the right to die together.

They are took outside, and the soldier in question, together with two other soldiers (described as 'paratroopers'), open fire. The soldier in the story, being interviewed years later, says that the other two soldiers were slow in firing, so he thinks that it was his gun fire that hit Nikolai in the knees and chest (possibly explaining his posture on the ground), and hit Elana in the head. He has no remorse in his part. The footage, combined with the trial notes presented above, give an all round picture of what was happening on that day.

I remember coming in the living room on Christmas Day, 1989, and seeing the TV showing what looked like a war film. I thought the uniforms looked a little odd, and not the usual 'Allies V Nazi' motiff that plays itself out, via our TV screens. I was told that this was live footage of fighting in Romania, and that the Communist regime was being over-thrown. The UK news networks reported it with great emphusiam. What happened, of course, is that reactionary forces led a successful counter-revolution, and turned the Peoples' revolution back. At the end of the day, blame can be given out to all and sundry, but the only fact that matters, is that the bourgeios took back control.
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