Ummm.... you kinda missed it.
Byzantium Empire 2nd Rome
Kiev 2.5 Rome
Moscow 3rd Rome
Benito Mussolini (a short Rome)
So by this logic, there will be another USSR.
"Don't hate on me bro" - Loz
Well apparently, some gobshite has already started from scratch.
Except its USSC this time.
What an idiot.
It even has a fictional communist party.
However, there will probably be another USSR. I certainly hope so.
Itd be good for russia, as it would, as someone rightly pointe out, be a good government for russia. Probably the Communist party would try to if they got into power again.
One question which is in my mind is, what if the USSR never ended. What would have happened, and been different?
Communism is for life. Not just for christmas.
There may very well be another USSR, but not for a long time. Societies tend to makes mistakes, and realize them generations later. The Russian people will realize that capitalism is a mistake. I herd this quote somewhere I can't remember:
"History is like an Endless Waltz; the three beats of war, peace, and revolution continue on forever."
Let the ruling classes tremble at a communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.
Proletarians of all countries, unite!
There can be a 2nd USSR, by many different approaches;
-A powerful group of people seizes power, which yearn for the good old days when Russia was a superpower and had the largest army in history of mankind.
-A very charismatic person who knows what to do and how to manipulate politics into achieving a high position.
-The communist party become greatly popular and comes into power.
-Something very dramatic happens which changes the course of history and the geopolitical situation, the balance of power shifts.
-A very powerful entity dissolves, like NATO or the US.
Yes, I tend to agree with Dariuz, especially on that last bit:
Yes. Actually, if NATO absorbs some of the Russian border states, I believe people may turn back to USSR even out of sheer NATO antipathy. NATO is pretty widely hated anyway, since it continued to be the US's military plaything even after the USSR was destroyed, and Putin is correct - the Cold War and the Arms Race did NOT stop, they continue... but now one side only continues the race. That speaks something of the matter of trust to capitalists - never.
The US, carrying on like this, may lose it's superpower status in this century already, and if there'd be a massive new capitalist crisis, it could fall apart.
A new Soviet Union, with a strong Social dominante may rise out of a Russia-Belorussia Union. If only a strong Socialist leader would take the lead and advance this Union to true socialism, no doubt that Middle Asia, threatened by US intervention, would join.
I believe in a new Union. I would even side with the PRC, if they could arguably prove in the next 10-20 years that their way achieves true socialism in the Marxist-Leninist way, and abandon harmful capitalist practices.
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NATO in fact has no right of existence anymore, there is no 'threat' from the USSR anymore, it was purely created as a military alliance to counter communism, in reality America's shield in a possible war with the communist world.
It was more to gurantee America would be involved in a WWIII. Keep in mind America has always taken its time when the European Democracies were tottering (WWI and WWII).
"Don't hate on me bro" - Loz
With all the injustice going on under the onslaught of corporate capitalism and unipolarism, I'd say it's only a matter of time before we see another USSR. I am not so well versed in Russian and other CIS socio-politics to predict whether it'll happen there...But...
If our bloody communist parties in South Asia get their dormant asses moving, we could see something like the USSR sooner than u think! It won't be a huge geographical landmass, but hell, it will have about 2 billion people!
I was reading on the news the US is getting very friendly why is that? May be so there is no USSR back?
Well, in a way the US is giving the impression of being "friendlier". US gov't is more open to talks with Iran and Syria in discussing Iraq's future, and is welcoming Russia's entry into the WTO. The second action is definitely a move to stem angst against capitalism in Russia, in addition to securing more Russian cooperation in dealing with Iran.
"History is a set of lies agreed upon."
hay we should all band together and start a revolution rather then just takeing part in a already exzisting one well that what i think
It all is how many Russians want the USSR back.I can't remember the poll how many Russians want the USSR back but I will see if I can find it.
Sometimes I get the feeling Russia is more likely to become National Socialist, rather than Socilaist
And even if the CPRF wins the next election (pretty unlikely) you have to remember that they are nationalistic, and some members are anti-Semitic, so don't expect them
to be like Lenin and the Bolsheviks.
I'd probably still support them anyway. A patriotic Socialist Russia is better than any capitalist Russia
I know the poll number how many Russians want the USSR back was in the threads here.But I have not had the time to read all of the USSR threads here.I still have over 100+ threads to read that came in the past some days.
My money is on Russia being the next truly fascist country. Half the worlds skinheads are in Russia. Some politicians in their parliament boast support for Hitler. Right-wing parties and movements are getting stronger by the day, and to top it off, there is virtually no criticism or action on them.
True, even the half-Jew Zhirinovsky expressed his admiration for Hitler
And half of them are in SPB. They're nothing compared to the number of communists(AKM, CPRF, etc).
Google "Russian March 2006".
It showed that nationalism and fascism lost its last holds in Russia, as only a couple hundred 'marchers' showed up, as many as on the anti-Fascist march nearby, which is nothing compared to 2005(4000 fascists, etc).
Seeing all this talk of the return of the Soviet Union brings a tear to my eye . The Soviet Union's return will not be possible until the people all over the world are convinced (well atleast get an idea) of how good life was back in the USSR!! Right here in India, I get to find how incredibly ignorant people are of the USSR and all that it had to offer to humanity. 400 years of slavery under the capitalist and imperialist British has completely ensured that Indians regard English as their lingua franca. No wonder the people here are in awe of all things Western...for e.g. desperate housewives, friends, WWE etc etc...they must think that capitalism is mankind's greatest achievement and that all things western are right!! They watch Discovery and BBC (main sources of western propoganda) wherein communists are shown as being evil and scheming people out to destroy democracy.
Lets face it , the Americans won the cold war with the help of the charishma factor....the same thing which still holds countless people in the third world under sway. It will take atleast a good 50-100 years before people realise that all of the "free" stuff from the west is only exploitation in disguise.
On a personal note if the Soviet Union were to return I would be the first person to apply for Soviet citizenship!!
India, Arise ye mighty land
for you are not independent yet,
for you shall be truly independent when the last capitalist has been thrown out......
Having been there last summer, I found myself in agreement with the analyses I have read that said that, no surpsise perhaps, a traditional Marxist analysis is actually right: Essentially, that any revolution in Russia would be premature until they had undergone the sufferings associated with capitalism. That is certainly going on now. The New Rich are getting richer, the elderly, even GPW veterans, are begging on the streets (more beggars than I have ever seen in New York or New Delhi!). The objective conditions for revolution are building. (I'd say the same is true for China and even the Evil Empire of the USA, by the way.)
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