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Were the moon landing's faked?

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Jun 2005, 23:41
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Post 18 Sep 2006, 07:11
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...or at least move this ridiculum to cafe Mir.....


At least it gives the Space Race forum some of the former life that it possessed in the Chernobog days. This remains one of the least active forums.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 03 Oct 2003, 15:51
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Post 25 Dec 2006, 23:59
These are some videos of the CBS News coverage of the first flight to the Moon, after the ad
To the Moon
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Jan 2006, 03:39
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Post 01 Jan 2007, 23:37
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Were the moon landing's faked?


Some may say so when you look how long it will take for them to go back.Yes 2020 !!



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NASA plans to permanently occupy an outpost at one of the Moon's poles, officials announced on Monday.

The first four astronauts will land for a short visit in 2020, but it will take until at least 2024 to prepare for "a fully functional presence with rotating crews", said Scott Horowitz, associate administrator for the exploration systems mission directorate.

It has taken NASA nearly three years to get to this point in their planning, following President George W Bush's announcement of his "vision" for exploring the Moon and Mars.

In April 2006, representatives of NASA and 13 other space agencies met to plan themes and objectives for an exploration strategy – essentially why to return to the Moon and what to do there. (NASA videos relating to the six themes decided upon are available.)

The planned base on the Moon is now a key part of the strategy. But NASA will not be going it alone. "It is critical we have international participation and commercial participation," says NASA deputy administrator Shana Dale, although no agreements are yet in place.

"The US will build the transportation infrastructure," said Dale. NASA will also provide initial capabilities for communications, navigation, and operation around the base. But the US is seeking help from other countries and private corporations in other areas, including the lunar habitation modules, power, logistics and robotics.

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The first full-scale test of the new US Ares 1 rocket is set for 2009 using a dummy second stage. An active second stage will be tested until 2012, and the launcher will not fly with a human crew until 2014, four years after NASA plans to ground the shuttle fleet.

Money for the ambitious plans will come from phasing out the shuttle. NASA does not expect a boost above its current 0.6% of the US budget, Horowitz said.

The first lunar explorers will be robots. Set for launch in October 2008, the Lunar Robotic Orbiter will target the poles to help select where to place the lunar outpost. Some spots near the poles appear to be sunlit 70% to 80% of the time, promising power for solar cells and more moderate temperatures than in areas cycling between the extremes of night and day.

Robotic lander
Mountains keep the floors of some polar craters in perpetual shade, so volatile compounds such as water should have accumulated for billions of years. However, hopes for finding large quantities of ice at the south pole have dimmed recently (see Hopes for lunar ice melt away).

But the Moon's polar regions are hard to study from Earth, so Horowitz says an orbiter will provide vital new information. A robotic lander would then visit the selected site after 2010.

The lander that delivers astronauts to the lunar surface will be crucial, Horowitz noted. In order to deliver the materials to the surface for constructing the base, the mass landed will need to be maximised and the mass of the ascent module minimised.

Another "basic high-level requirement" for the lander is to be able to go everywhere on the Moon, says Horowitz.

How fast the base expands and how many people work there will depend on how many other organisations become involved, but he says "it's obviously too early" to say what visitors would pay for a night's stay at the outpost.




http://space.newscientist.com/channel/s ... unced.html
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Post 01 Jan 2007, 23:59
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Were the moon landing's faked?


this is about as sensible as the holocaust denial crowd.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 26 Jun 2006, 02:51
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Post 02 Jan 2007, 04:11
It's harder to go to the moon now because we have higher safety standards. It was unlikely for the astronauts who went to the moon to not make it back.
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Post 02 Jan 2007, 05:27
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now because we have higher safety standards


air bags? antilock brakes? crumple zones? that sort of thing?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Jan 2006, 03:39
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Post 04 Jan 2007, 00:05
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It's harder to go to the moon now because we have higher safety standards. It was unlikely for the astronauts who went to the moon to not make it back.


No we call this the Cold War!! The space program ended in the 80's when the USSR stop competing with the US and went their separate ways. After Cold War it become budget problem and still is today a budget problem.

Go back and read the post they are going to stop using the space shuttle in 2010 and use that budget to get to the moon. It means it is going to take 10 years to get to the moon.
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Post 04 Jan 2007, 00:20
Right.

1. We don't want our austronauts to die. Higher standards.

2. We have less money invested in the space program.

Thus, it will take longer.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 12 May 2005, 13:28
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Post 04 Jan 2007, 00:22
Yes during Cold War USA was desperate to win even some aspect of space race so they went to moon with quite large risks I would guess. Now that there is no burning need to go there and not as large budget it will take longer.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 21 Jun 2004, 21:22
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Post 07 Jan 2007, 12:27
They spent billions on going to the moon, If it was faked, the producer should've been fired.

The moon has some pretty great advantages. It can be inhabited, it can also serve as a rocket station, where we can use its limited gravity to jump off and on to the moon.

Both nations did a lot.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 15 Jan 2007, 20:57
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Post 15 Jan 2007, 21:18
I don't think the moon landing was faked, our KGB comrades would have found out. Believe me
Sigmund Jähn, communist and first german in space.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Nov 2006, 22:03
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Post 16 Jan 2007, 16:29
What reason should make KGB interested in the moonlanding?
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Post 16 Jan 2007, 17:06
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Believe me


why?

not that I believe the landings were faked, but you are suppoesed to state sources here. I highly doubt you are in a position to speak authoritively about the findings of the KGB in the late 1960's.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 16 Nov 2005, 17:55
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Post 16 Jan 2007, 18:17
Technically, Sigmund can't cite a source for his argument, because there is nothing to cite. He is effectively speculating that if the moon landing was faked, the KGB would have eventually discovered it and documented it, which is not true in reality.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 15 Jan 2007, 20:57
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Post 16 Jan 2007, 20:05
The KGB had infiltrated american society at every level. Not only the CIA, FBI, NSA etc but also Nasa. It was no matter of if but when the russians would have found out about a possible fake moon landing. Technically the foot prints, the driving vehicle and the american flag should be still up there. The russians would have found out no doubt, either by visting the moon or/and as they had their agents placed everywhere. As much as I hate the fact but the americans were up there first.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 16 Jun 2004, 17:30
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Post 17 Jan 2007, 09:26
My aunt worked on the Apollo program, as did a lot of people's relatives.

There was no conspiracy, otherwise everyone would know about it. Shutting up thousands of people just wouldn't have happened.

And, as has been pointed out, the Soviet Union acknowledges the US went to the moon. They had no reason to lie about it.

Not to mention, every conspiracy theory about it has been convincingly destroyed by third-party scientists.

Seriously, anyone who believes this horse-shit should be taken out of the gene pool to protect future generations.

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Nov 2006, 22:03
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Post 17 Jan 2007, 17:51
If the moonlanding was a fake the exposure of that should be a job for the Soviet space agency not KGB.
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Post 17 Jan 2007, 18:14
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Technically the foot prints, the driving vehicle and the american flag should be still up there.


a good High powered telescope lends proof to this..

so I think we can end this discussion and leave it for the "giant Snail" people and "tin hat society".
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Post 17 Jan 2007, 18:15
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Technically the foot prints, the driving vehicle and the american flag should be still up there.


a good High powered telescope lends proof to this..

so I think we can end this discussion and leave it for the "giant Snail" people and "tin hat society".
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Post 17 Jan 2007, 19:09
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so I think we can end this discussion and leave it for the "giant Snail" people and "tin hat society".


Where is the personal ignore button on this forum?
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