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Alien life attempting to contact us?

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Post 23 Apr 2008, 03:18
Well the Vulcans will make contact with Earth in 2066. I'm not sure what will happen with alien life between now and then though.
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Post 02 Sep 2009, 06:17
Interesting E-Book From:http://www.ufodata.co.uk

Very Fascinating Read!
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Post 03 Sep 2009, 01:10
I read a few years ago that the British society of UFO watchers closed because there were no UFO sightings reported that year.
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Post 03 Sep 2009, 08:15
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I read a few years ago that the British society of UFO watchers closed because there were no UFO sightings reported that year.


That certainly would have been very bad for business!
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Post 03 Sep 2009, 09:20
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Well the Vulcans will make contact with Earth in 2066. I'm not sure what will happen with alien life between now and then though.


You might find this interesting!


http://www.thewellers.com/startrek/enttmln.htm
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Post 29 Sep 2009, 02:56
There is one incident that was compelling:

I dont remember the details, but a UFO attacked a Red Air Force base, and shot down a MiG 21, and another MiG 21 destroyed the UFO. Amazing, Soviet technology was able to own Ailen technology in the 60s. Lots of evidence was destroyed, but the pilots and people on the ground described it. Also it is rumored the soviets had captured some UFOs. Someplace they lie in a secret bunker? Who knows.

So, yes, there is a HIGH chance of outside life.
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Post 29 Sep 2009, 03:46
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Also it is rumored the soviets had captured some UFOs. Someplace they lie in a secret bunker?


I do not know if this is related to any of the incidents, which you are refering to, but you may find this article interesting.

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Text Below Retrieved From:http://www.anthroufo.info/au-con.html

Issues in Social-Scientific Research on Contact/Abduction
The following observations and recommendations do not all originate with me, but I think it will be beneficial to collect and re-state them here. They underscore reasons I have elsewhere given why anthropology is of great utility in studying UFO-related phenomena: detailed ethnographic case studies; historical and cultural contextualization; and cross-cultural comparison and contrast.

Methodology
For starters, I suggest that the distinction between abduction and contact is analytically useful and that a further subdivision of the categories of the kind offered previously may be just as useful. This distinction derives its power from its concurrence with the "emic" categories of self-described experiencers and investigators of alien contact. We should not, however, leave the distinction unquestioned and lose sight of the important parallels in structure, content, and effect that alien contact narratives share with stories of encounters with spiritual beings, fairies, and other nonhuman supernatural beings (see Vallée 1993[1968] and Thompson 1989).

In fact, in light of those parallels, I suggest that any social-scientific investigation should accord abductions or contacts the same status accorded to reported religious experiences. By this I mean we should not devote any more energy to debating the existence of aliens than we would to debating the existence of any of the myriad beings (including a Supreme Being) reported in religious experiences before we even begin researching reports of such experiences.


Another issue here is one raised by UFOs in general--cross-cultural and subcultural variations in the structure and content of reported experiences. Aside from scattered references to an overall pattern in reports with intriguing, possibly culturally based differences between reports, there has been no systematic investigation of either the (inferred) pattern or the (incompletely analyzed) variations. For instance, Stephanie Platz's dissertation (1996) on ufologists and contactees in the chaos of post-Soviet Armenia reveals a nationalist interpretation of alien contact very different from the universalist spin US abduction researchers put on it. Ethnographic case studies can be helpful here, not least for focusing tightly on particular phenomena and putting the particulars in their cultural and historical context.

Complete Web-Page:http://www.anthroufo.info/au-con.html


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So, yes, there is a HIGH chance of outside life.


I agree, but there are also too many hoaxes out there, as well. The hoaxes do so much to discredit the legitimate UFO sightings.

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Post 30 Sep 2009, 04:43
There are no legitimate alien craft sightings.
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Post 30 Sep 2009, 05:33
Well according to Independence Day and an episode of Futurama the Roswell incident happened. Also it should be worth noting that my dad was born around the same time that the Roswell incident supposedly happened...
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Post 30 Sep 2009, 06:06
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Well according to Independence Day and an episode of Futurama the Roswell incident happened.


Unfortunately, I missed George Noory, last night. Most of his guest are kooks anyway, but this show does look interesting!

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Alien Hypotheses
Date:09-28-09 Host:
George Noory
Mac Tonnies, David Blume, Daryl Hannah
Guests: Mac Tonnies, David Blume, Daryl Hannah
Author, blogger and Fortean researcher Mac Tonnies argued that the ET hypothesis (that aliens are visiting our world from other star systems) is somewhat of an outmoded concept, and the truth may be stranger than we can imagine, involving a myriad of overlapping explanations. The notion of parallel worlds has gained credence in the scientific world, and the aliens could represent a kind of symbiosis with beings from another dimension, he noted. The so-called ETs could be a species of intelligent non-humans, or "Cryptoterrestrials" (the title of his forthcoming book) who covertly share our planet with us. Because aliens are typically described as a bipedal and human-like species, it suggests to him they have developed here on Earth.
Yet, the prototypical alien-- the spindly, big headed 'grey,' has the physique to be an ideal astronaut with few physical requirements-- perhaps they were designed for space travel, Tonnies commented. Cultural associations also influence how the aliens are perceived. In Zimbabwe for instance, entities wearing silvery suits associated with metallic craft have been described as the "ghosts of ancestors," he detailed. Regarding the alien's reported hybridization program, we could be dealing with something beyond the understanding of our neurological hard-wiring, he said.
Tonnies sees humans themselves in a kind of transitional state, eventually merging with technology and becoming more evolved and compassionate. He also talked about how some of the artifacts on Mars, such as at Cydonia, are a genuine scientific mystery. While not yet definitive proof of ET presence, they merit serious study, he said.
Retrieved From:http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/09/28
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Post 18 Jan 2010, 03:06
There is no solid evidence that alien life even exists, let alone whether or not their UFO's have visited Earth. For this most people point to Drake equation:
http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/SETI/drake_equation.html

But truth is it doesn't confirm anything. If you look at the site, the note that each coefficient could be "from 0 to 100%" but then allow you to enter no value less that 0.0001%. Is there any reason to think that the real values are not far less than that? I don't think there is any reason expect any range of values! We just don't have the information. Since we have no reason whatever to assign even approximate values in the Drake equation, we certainly have no reason to "accept alien life is out there".
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Post 18 Jan 2010, 03:38
Asking if aliens have come to earth is like asking if god exists.
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Post 18 Jan 2010, 18:10
Dagoth Ur wrote:
Asking if aliens have come to earth is like asking if god exists.

...we wont know until its too late
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Post 26 Jan 2010, 22:08
If aliens come,they will bring communism to the Earth,since they are thousands of year ahead of us!
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Post 26 Jan 2010, 23:32
That's retarded.
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Post 27 Jan 2010, 14:20
Why so? It's makes more sense than believing in god.
And ,besides, it was a joke.
According to "marxist" understanding of history,capitalism has to evolve in...something...one day,just like feudalism did etc....
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Post 28 Jan 2010, 00:33
No it isn't. Its just as stupid. Anyone who believes that the social conditions we experience are universal is a fool. For all we know there is a barbarian race who has developed space technology, or stole it. There is no necessary or special connection between socialism and space travel, whatsoever.
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Post 28 Jan 2010, 16:36
As i said,it was a joke.
Stupid like Kalinin's Power of the Soviet state,or DDR "Wall" propaganda.
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Post 07 Mar 2010, 13:25
I'm very interested about this topic.

Personally i believe about the existance of aliens. In my country there was a political ufologist group named Mir, they suggest the existence of alien races similar to the Star Treck's Federation. With highly evolved communist social system but with a First Directive for not Contact the races have not evolved into a similar life-system.
There are an exception for the Gray, all their descriptions will show how physically weak probably because of this they need genetic material from humans.
And its probable that US and also Nazi allow kidnapping for technology.

There are some interesting stories like the famous mission Apollo 20, with Leonov that never denied the mission, the discovery of an aline ship on the moon and the rescue of a female humanoids.
They are probably a race linked with the Federation, and there are very interesting picture about the Phobos-2 mission of 1998, of a strange shadow similar to the Apollo 20's alien ships.

It's funny how some nazi pretend claim the surviving of their Empire with a escape on the Moon during 1945 while they DIDN'T have resources because of the War.
It's more likely that something of similar was happened with soviet cosmonauts..
But for the hypothetical war against the Grays, there is a beautiful and TRUE video on you tube of a UFO found in USSR and many soviet soldiers around it.

For soviet space fighter, yes.
There where the armed space stations Almaz-1, Almaz-2 and Almaz-3
Then in 1987 the incredible powerful Polyus armed station with nuclear mines and a laser gun.
Officially destroyed during the lauch.. .. officially..
And there were
La-350 Burya from 1957-1960
Spiral Rakatoplan from 1962-1969
MiG-105 Spiral or Lapot shown only in 1975 but already operative from 1965 until '80, one of them can be saw at the Monino Museum at Moscow.
and the better one, the Uragan, an improved version of Lapot, two official flew were made 4 june 1982 and 19 december 1984.

All of theme were armed with guns and missles with one crew member, and could be used against Gray.

Very interesting the missions TMK-1, TMK-E, Mavr and KK,
Official never realized human missions to Mars and Venus.
But after suspicions of secret missions and launches alien related, maybe could be missions of contacts with good aliens
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Post 09 Mar 2010, 06:40
... goddammit. Why has sci-fi become the new mythology?
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