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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 29 Jul 2011, 11:37
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Post 28 Feb 2012, 17:06
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 37,1658598

Even the West admitted that Czechoslovakia and Hungary ate over 3200 calories a day and had problems with overeating in 1970s already, yet modern propaganda always say "BUT THEY WERE STARVING".

Why are rightwingers so obsessed with claiming that their ideological enemies "starve their people"?
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Post 28 Feb 2012, 17:30
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Why are rightwingers so obsessed with claiming that their ideological enemies "starve their people"?


Because if socialism can't produce enough food to keep the proletariat alive, maybe that just possibly hints at the failure of the system? If people had starved in western capitalist countries during the Cold War, you can be sure as hell that leftists everywhere would have screamed their outrage.

But the premise of your accusation is flawed. When did the "rightwingers" ever say that the Czechoslovaks or Hungarians were starving during socialism? It's North Korea, Cambodia and China that they focus on - for good reason.
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Post 28 Feb 2012, 17:53
Suryong wrote:

Because if socialism can't produce enough food to keep the proletariat alive, maybe that just possibly hints at the failure of the system? If people had starved in western capitalist countries during the Cold War, you can be sure as hell that leftists everywhere would have screamed their outrage.


People have always starved in america and europe. It's just that it's "their own fault" for being lazy and stupid.
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Post 28 Feb 2012, 20:00
Suryong yeah, cappies care so much for feeding their slaves that 14 million people starve each year. I can find you a hundred or so of capitalist countries where starvation occurs on a big part of the population, is North Korea, Cambodia and China all you got? Three extremely underdeveloped countries that starved under capitalism even more than under socialism (and Pol Pot era Cambodia had nothing to do with communism, your right wing friends supported it heavily). That is your basis for claiming socialism fails? Nice "balanced" comparision of DPRK, China... to Western capitalist countries by the way. Why I am never allowed to compare DPRK to Somalia, its the ultimate libertarian heaven!

By the way, it's not "Czechoslovaks", it's Czechs and Slovaks.

And I have seen rightwing retards to claim even that Europe (whole present day turbocapitalist Europe) is socialist and that they are all skinny and starved. Look at this http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 744AA63S6a . Don't read the best rated post, read all the other ones.
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