Let's see some of the cases from 2013 and 2014:
В Удмуртии 42-летнего гея убил любопытный гомофоб - "из интереса" Школьник расстрелял учителя географии в Москве, так как считал его геем Жителя Буденновска убили, потому что тот "заступился" за друга гея Студент из Нижнего Новгорода перерезал горло за "непристойное предложение" 23-летний гей зверски убит в Волгограде - "задел чувства" в День Победы 2013, truly a Vatnik moment: Quote: This is an english-speaking forum, please provide a translation. - Che B. Quote: What does that have to do with anything? Shit, that's the exact "and you're lynching negroes" mentality.
Well, a total of 5 over 2 years, at least one of which seems to have weird people who are into rape and dismemberment that likely don't have anything to do with homophobia (correct me if I'm wrong, but you are implying that Russians are natural rapists and dismemberers here). I guess it's not the best, though of course we are not allowed to compare Russia to any other country in your little worldview so as an isolated case in a world where no other countries exist when Russia is being discussed, I would say it could do better but it seems far from a systematic problem that you should scream bloody murder over.
![]() "Bleh, i don't even know what i'm arguing for. What a stupid rant. Disregard what i wrote." - Loz "Every time is gyros time" - Stalinista
And I guess a separate post on why pro-gay activism in Russia in its current form is doomed to fail.
America: Gay activist: America, you are such a perfect land of democracy and freedom, please let the gays share in this freedom fest too? American: Sure thing, bud. (Though about half our states will disagree.) Europe: Gay activist: Europe, you are such a perfect place of progress and tolerance, please let the gays also be part of this loving landscape? European: Naturlich! Russia: Gay activist: Russia, you fucking suck, you damn orks, how can you even think about not letting us have the same rights as in Europe? You will never be a land of freedom or tolerance, but give us the same rights as them or everyone will make fun of you and your Olympics! Russian: Poshel na huj, pidor. How do you think Americans or Europeans would react if they had the same attitude thrown at them as Russians do? That's right, it only appeals to schizophrenics who hate their country and whom the government actively promotes in various media to discredit the opposition. ![]() "Bleh, i don't even know what i'm arguing for. What a stupid rant. Disregard what i wrote." - Loz "Every time is gyros time" - Stalinista
Cool caricature yo.
Soviet cogitations: 237
Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 16 Jul 2014, 21:53 Ideology: Other Leftist Pioneer
A nice movie about homosexuality in the socialist countries is Before the Night Falls, an autobiography from Reinaldo Arenas.
Che Burashka wrote: I've decided to continue the discussion here: Yeqon wrote: Loz wrote: Yeqon wrote: Loz wrote: Loz wrote: —Sereisky, Great Soviet Encyclopedia, 1930, p. 593 wrote: The law against sex with minors was included in the post 1933 prohibition of male homosexuality while a law against lesbians was never enacted. The wikipedia article by the way does not include the exact wording of Article 121 in Russian, which makes debating whether the law was enacted against homosexuality as opposed to only pedophilia impossible. There were openly lesbian members in the communist party as well as in the soviet military. There are no documents proving that anyone was arrested for adult male homosexuality, only for pedophilia upon which the penalty was 5 years then and is still 5 years now. Stalin's favourite Soviet film director Sergei Eisenstein was also a homosexual. That however did not stop him from being given numerous Soviet awards including the Stalin State Prize for his artistic achievements. It's also worth mention that the Wikipedia article cites the Official Website of the American Department of Homeland Security as their source of information for their piece on homophobia in the USSR/Russia. Well isn't that typical? Was the law enacted in 1933 vague? Yes. Was it backwards and inaccurate, subject to exploitation? Yes. Is homophobia in the USSR being exaggerated by anti-Soviet communists and by borderline racist Russophobes? Most definitely yes. I lived in Kiev and visited gay bars occasionally and I didn't notice homophobia that was exceptionally obvious and singular to Slavic people alone. There are 3 gay night clubs that are a 15~20 minute walk from the Maidan alone. Yes cross-dressing gay men were beaten up occasionally when out in the open; and yes I believe Eastern Slavs are less open to homosexual activity than say people in Amsterdam, but there definitely isn't any governmental or national offensive against gay people there. Most people couldn't care less one way or the other. By the way, none of the Russian members on this site have expressed any homophobic feelings whereas there are Westerners and Americans who have numerous times recently. Quote: Which is exactly my point. Just because laws are enacted doesn't mean they'll be effective or have any considerable weight. Quote: What the frag? You misunderstood me. I wasn't defending any laws be it prohibition or whatnot. Still it's funny you mention him, since it was Senator Joseph McCarthy who used accusations of homosexuality as a smear tactic in his anti-communist crusade. So I don't know why the USSR is being singled out when you had openly homophobic elected representatives of the American government in power. Senator Joseph McCarthy wrote: Senator Kenneth Wherry similarly attempted to invoke a connection between homosexuality and anti-nationalism. Senator Kenneth Wherry wrote: ![]() The great art of life is sensation, to feel that you exist, even in pain. |
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