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Would you like to emmigrate to the DPRK?

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Would you like to emigrate to the DPRK?

Yes
13
16%
No
30
38%
Maybe
5
6%
I would prefer to emigrate to China, Cuba or another Socialist country
18
23%
No, I like it where I am.
13
16%
 
Total votes : 79
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Feb 2008, 15:25
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Post 20 Dec 2010, 04:31
For now, I am most effective where I am now and my family is here, but I would consider emigrating down the track.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 05 Dec 2010, 16:17
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Post 20 Dec 2010, 06:14
I would love to visit North Korea out of interest, but I wouldn't want to live there. The main reason being - I don't speak Korean
Also, I hear they aren't allowed to use the internet and I need the internet to live!
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Apr 2010, 04:44
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Philosophized
Post 20 Dec 2010, 06:55
Gulag pretty much hit on it. The language gap, and the severe cultural gap. We'd have to become suddenly used to a lack of nearly everything we take for granted, and there's not many among us who wouldn't eventually come to resent that.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Jan 2010, 05:46
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Post 22 Dec 2010, 03:58
North Korea has Internet. Their TLD is .kp
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Apr 2010, 04:44
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Post 22 Dec 2010, 04:18
North Korean citizens don't have access to that internet. Apparently, even Party members only have access to a state-controlled intranet which features only Kim-approved DPRK sites and excludes all others.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Feb 2008, 15:25
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Post 22 Dec 2010, 07:35
Quote:
North Korean citizens don't have access to that internet.


There are internet cafe's like in Cuba which the public can access. University students also have access. The trouble is that the embargoes against the DPRK prevent them from using the undersea cables the rest of the region uses to gain access to the internet. They are forced to share bandwidth over satellite connections, which are very slow and severely limit how many computers can be connected at one time. Cuba has the same trouble, except that Venezuela is laying a cable so Cubans will be able to access the net via another country which couldn't give a stuff about the blockade. This will mean Cuba will have internet access with enough bandwidth to provide connections to people in their homes.

Unfortunately the only such ally the DPRK has is China and they don't wish to aggravate the US by circumventing embargoes in a way the West would cry foul about (North Korean hackers!!!111!!!).
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Mar 2010, 05:37
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Post 23 Dec 2010, 06:12
I imagine that China is the provider of Internet bandwidth to the DPRK.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Feb 2008, 15:25
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Post 23 Dec 2010, 06:46
It isn't. As I said, North Korea is forced by sanctions to use satellite connections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_North_Korea

The North does have an intranet which has been online since 2000, but until sanctions are dropped, it will be very difficult and prohibitively expensive to provide the majority of the population access to the net. Not to mention the problems with power supply, also a symptom of trade sanctions.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 28 Sep 2009, 00:56
Ideology: Democratic Socialism
Unperson
Post 23 Dec 2010, 14:03
Well since the North is now apparently fully prepared to use nuclear weapons in a Korean conflict, I definately don't want to go there....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12067735
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Aug 2010, 14:21
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Post 25 Dec 2010, 03:30
A nuke is useless if you aren't ready to use it. This may be only deterrence, I don't think they would use it. The more the North pretends to be insane, the more his deterrence is effective.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Dec 2010, 15:55
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Post 25 Dec 2010, 11:08
I would never emigrate to the DPRK. Just to visit it maybe but live there no! I don't beleive in a Communist/Socialist state North Korean style. Kim's regime is not communist IMO ... North Korea is a "KIM family-run business" sort of.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 May 2013, 19:04
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Post 21 May 2013, 16:50
No, I would prefer to fight for Socialism here in the United States.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 May 2012, 00:32
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Post 23 May 2013, 11:00
We all need to take our responsibilities fighting our own bourgeois and local imperialists while whole-heartedly backing the independence and self-determination of the heroic people of the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea!
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 06 Dec 2009, 23:17
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Post 23 May 2013, 13:36
There is only one Korean people and they deserve to live decent lives in a civilized state that respects human rights, and that's South Korea not the DPRK.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Aug 2010, 14:21
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Post 23 May 2013, 13:40
Of course you prefer the US puppet. There is only one Korean people and they deserve to remain Koreans and independant, and that's the North, not the South. There is only one working class and they deserve to live in a country that isn't a survival of fascist dictatorship.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 May 2013, 19:04
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Post 23 May 2013, 14:31
I support North Korea because I believe it is still legitimate Socialism. I don't support South Korea because I believe it is as a US puppet state so the US can expand its number of military bases.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Aug 2008, 18:12
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Post 23 May 2013, 18:30
If being under the imperialist influence of the USA has led to South Korea being materially richer than North Korea, surely that means South Korean subservience is better than North Korean independence?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Aug 2010, 14:21
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Post 23 May 2013, 23:41
If North Korea has managed to remain out of the influence of the USA, surely that means North Korea is best Korea. Money doesn't make virtue, only capitalists believe that.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Aug 2008, 18:12
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Post 23 May 2013, 23:50
Quote:
If North Korea has managed to remain out of the influence of the USA, surely that means North Korea is best Korea. Money doesn't make virtue, only capitalists believe that.


No, but you can't eat independence. US influence in South Korea has clearly resulted in a much higher standard of living compared with North Korea. What good is "virtue" here when people are more interested in eating well, having fuel and electricity 24/7, and more access to consumer goods?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Feb 2013, 03:36
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Post 24 May 2013, 05:49
Weed is legal in North Korea. I heard it isn't too strong though... Just a thought. ha ha

But I would have to stay in the US. Like my other American comrades said before me. I am an American (Not a very typical American, but one none the less!).
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