does god exist ?

i dont see how, your basically believing in something that dosent exist. Some people waste their whole lives to faith, but hey its their desision.

The 'fact' that God does not exist is apparent in your set of Marxist Paradigms, whereas from a Religious, Fascist, Liberal Humanist Analysis this would not be the case. You cannot say with absolute certainty that god does not exist; however you can say that you do not believe that god exists.

Welcome to the Post-Modern world!

Bendeguz is right. Science cannot disprove the existence of God. What human beings can touch, smell, see, and hear is actually less than one millionth of reality.

So wrap your mind around that.

maybe science cant, but logic sure can.

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maybe science cant, but logic sure can.

Explain...

You see, using logic, I have concluded that God does exist.


phh.... weird. That's funny how we came to completely different conclusions using the same thing.

maybe you just simply cannot accept the idea that MAYBE there is no god, or maybe your just plain one minded. Can you please elaborate on how you used logic to credit there being a god

Reality is only something which is perceivable by the senses, stimuli, be they intellectual/mental or physical. What I see, touch, taste, know, feel both physically and emotionally is what I can only profess to actually know. I do not feel infinitude.

Of course. Knowledge is truth plus beleif plus scientific justification.

YES. But I'm a forgiving and kind god, as long as I get my yearly sacrifices of beautiful virgins...

From the paradigms of the virgin-sacrificing-religion your sarcasm is considered null and void! However from a Marxist paradigms you are completely justified in being sarcastic.

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It's right about here that I get fed up with Post-Modernism.

Whose being sarcastic?

Laibach wrote:

You see, using logic, I have concluded that God does exist.

I don't know how you could. The question itself lies outside the bounds of the Cartesian method of thinking.

First of all I voted yes, because scientific explanation is more farfetched in my view. But there's a difference between faith and religion, and I don't see there being anything wrong in having faith, believing in God I don't think is bad. But when faith becomes religion, as in where you have organisations like churches to essentially control people's faith, then it can be a bad thing, because it can be used to control people. But I wouldn't say all religions are bad, it depends on the religion, it's too big a subject to just broadly agree or disagree with.

Karl Marx said:

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The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.

Actually I don't think that is so applicable today, at least not in western society. I think religion (at least in the wst) plays a lot smaller part in society compared with Marx's time, and people are starting to reject religion. It is less of a method of control.

In its place now we have consumerism, and in a way I think consumerism is the new religion. Today, less-so than religion, it's the amount of advertising around everywhere you look that is brainwashing people. People are being made to think they want what they don't need. Without it then I don't see capitalism lasting long.

Marx has a very good point which is subtle.

I think what he is after is that religion can only exist when there is suffering or in general just classes in society.

The way I interpret it, is that when communism has been achieved, there will be no classes therefore religion itself will lose it's purpose and wither away.

Religion in general, in terms of fanatics, is a way of granting hope in a hopeless world, just as Marx said. But when conditions are such so that there is no useless suffering, the purpose of religion will fade away.

How can Communism exist without a struggle? If everybody is happy, why bother with a revolution? No, I believe that Communism is like National Socialism: it needs a struggle to continue to exist. In any case, a life without struggle, hardships, or any misery is quite exceedingly dull and will just lead to complacence, stagnation, and degeneration of society.

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How can Communism exist without a struggle?

Isn't communism the end point, after the struggle? If there is still a struggle, then communism, by deffinition, hasn't been achieved.

Yes, God exists. And he is watching YOU! Be carefull, dont write anything insulting on the internet.

hahaha "Smite"
I want such a key on my kb :<

I do not believe in god. However I do belive in a force greater than any one person, some sort of force that drives us together. Some force that drives us forward toward better things. I would have to say that based on the terrible things that happen in the world, he would have to be an evil god to let this happen, even if it is only "temporary." Or maybe god is just some dude up in the sky playing The Sims, and we are all just little, umm Simlings in that big Sim City called Earth.