[Nevsky21]

I was discussing politics and how Jews own the media and take advantage of other people. A lot of people on this site know its a fact. I just express political opinion while you make personal attacks which I resond to.

[Petrovich]

ShamelessUnionAgitatorUSA wrote:

How is it an anti-Semitic fascist poster like this has not been banned from this forum? As a newbie, this is more than a rhetorical question.

I have a theory-- I think it has something to do with the management and arrangements between some members and their friends and organizations.

It's only a theory though, and I've always kept those questions rhetorical, since they hold no water otherwise-- namely since we've been plagued with this problem for over four months, and even on the boards prior to the new rehash.

Considering how valued these members are held to be on our forum and to our expanding political education and knowledge-- any actions against them would be merely to appease the rest of us, and not out of true intentions.

[Nevsky21]

*edit, discrimination based on nationality

[Nevsky21]

*edit personal attack

[Vladimir Nikolai]

Why is it that American Communists have to be social rejects? Your nationalism has blinded you into hatred of all America and Americans.

[Nevsky21]

Again because I state a common issue about America doesnt mean I hate it. Same goes for Jews, Germans, etc.

[CZ86]

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Thats the American way though telling to ban people that dont agree with what you think. America is filled with squelers like some of you here.

i have seen many cases of this. it is not an insult against america, but rather an observation.

[Reaganite]

My vote went for Lincoln. It was a very hard time for America. The American Civil War was America's bloodiest war ever. If you combine American casulaties from World War I, World War II, the Korean War and the Vietnam War...combine all these American casulaties from these wars that America fought in and the numbers combined still wouldn't equal the number of American dead in the American Civil War by itself.

[Reaganite]

Thomas Jefferson is by far my favourite founding father. The American Revolutionary War scared the hell out of alot of European monarchies and influenced many of the French to start the French Revolution.

[ComradeQSP]

Jefferson was a great Revolutionary. My vote is for Jefferson.

-PDO

[pol_pot]

Martin "the man" Van Buren would be my pick.

[Petrovich]

Yes, of course, since he is the person who opposed universal suffrage

[The Immortal Goon]

Jefferson is the best.

1. Led the Revolution
2. Opposed business
3. Opposed becoming friends with non-revolutionary powers
4. Promoted world-wide republican revolution
5. Advocated a system of 'Ward Republics' in his later years, which are very much like the Revolutionary-era conception of soviets
6. Beleived science, and not religion should dictate behavior and society
7. Arguably the first person in the world to militantly sepearte religion from government
8. Militant beleiver in revolution against all authority
9. Advocated and promoted then revolutionary scholastic reform
10. Father of all modern revolutions - Before Jefferson, Revolution was seen as returning to a previous state; actually revolving to something that was already there. Jefferson broke this mold definition.

I did a paper once comparing Lenin and Jefferson, many of their ideas are similor (so long as you account for the fact that Jefferson was pre-industrialization).

Everyone downplays Jefferson as having 'simply' written some of the most important documents in revolutionary history, but few people have actually sat down and read his stuff (and when they do, they tend to be right-wing nut jobs).

Next, I'd say

FDR as he is, pretty much, the best president. He kicked some Nazi ass and modernized the US state with a bit of much-needed socialism.

Lincoln next because he ended slavery and cleaned up the Confederate slime. You can't look at Lincoln and not think that he embodies everything Yankees wish the US represented.

Jackson was great because he put an end to a forming aristocracy in the US as well as established voting rights for millions of more people. However, he was also a great killer of natives, even when the Supreme Court and Legislative bodies would try to stop him. It's hard not to kind of like a guy who was president and had six bullets in him and when someone tried to assasinate him he beat the assassin senseless with his wood walking stick.

-TIG

*Edit - accidently said the Supreme Court tried to kill the legislative body

[Nevsky21]

Powerful list TIG. My respect for you increases.

[Dr. Nosophoros]

Why did you ignore Washington?

[Siberian Fox]

Nevsky21 wrote:

the Jews abuse their power

Do not make generalisations like this.

To say that people XYZ own whatever percentage of the media and are all Jewish is a statement of fact. To say that "Jews abuse their power" is just downright daft generalising of the sort used by racists.

Do not do it on this discussion board.

[Magnum PI]

Damn, this whole thread has kind of become just angry talk, meh. My vote goes to FDR, although, him, lincoln, and Jefferson are kind of tied in my mind. I like FDR becouse he was the working mans. . . .man. As in, he made unions legal, he made child labor illegal, and he made the 40 hour work week, all sorts of things. Before him, the country had remained unchanged since about lincolns time, exept now the stockmarket had more power.
"please forgive spelling, wrote this in a hurry"

[Stalin the Ironfist]

I know this is off topic and I hope this will be the last post referring to such things on this thread. Nevesky please dont be soo outgoing with your anti-semitism. I talked to Nevesky he doesnt hate all Jews isnt that right Nevesky? Also if he hates jews he has that right given to him. If you want to get picky what Russian leader actually supported the Jews? To get more technical which Russian leaders didnt hate and Kill jews?? Food for thought. Enough of this discussion on Anti-Semitism and I know nevesky started it


Reason I didnt pick washington is because it would be obvious to be favored for being the father of the US. It would be like Lenin as one of the Soviet leader choices.

[CZ86]

TIG your points are very well made, i could not agree more.

[Stalin the Ironfist]

I know why no one is voting for T.R. lol i forgot he was an Imperialist *smacks head* he did many good things for the US internally.