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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Jan 2010, 05:46 Ideology: Marxism-Leninism Party Member  21 May 2010, 18:10
If you have ever seen a national bolshevik or nazbol YouTube video it's weird because they are full of pictures combinding Mao, Stalin, Ho Chi Minh, Kim Jong Il, and Kim Il Sung, DPRK, DDR, and SS, Brown shirts, skinheads, and other Nazi symbolism. I know nazbol are fascist pretending to be communist but how are Ho Chi Minh or Mao fascist or how do they even represent it?
 "Those who do not move, do not notice their chains." - Rosa Luxemburg Long Live The Bolivarian Revolution! RIP Muamar Qadafi RIP Hugo Chavez 21 May 2010, 19:54
those videos are ran by a bizarre bunch of germans who are running their own version of national bolshevism. they are like like anti-germans in reverse and some of them are members of die linke. the official NBP labelled these hitler-worshipping and slavs=germans kind of people as a disease. more here (use google translate):
http://theory.nazbol.ru/index.php?optio ... s&Itemid=2 theory about nations and states: http://theory.nazbol.ru/index.php?optio ... s&Itemid=2  Jugoslavija je bleda slika premrzlega partizana zato je njeno ljudstvo navajeno trpeti zato je njeno ljudstvo pripravljeno umreti. -Via Ofenziva Forum Rules
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Jan 2010, 05:46 Ideology: Marxism-Leninism Party Member 21 May 2010, 20:44
I wouldn't expect National Bolsheviks to join die linke isn't die linke like a democratic socialist party, I know it has a communist section but I wouldn't expect National Bolsheviks to fit into it.
"Those who do not move, do not notice their chains." - Rosa Luxemburg Long Live The Bolivarian Revolution! RIP Muamar Qadafi RIP Hugo Chavez 21 May 2010, 21:01
that's besides the point. the point is that what you saw is a small and bizarre fringe group which is willing to cooperate with die linke and this group is very probably not serious or another bizarre political experiment like anti-germans. germany has a knack for these strange ideologies.
Jugoslavija je bleda slika premrzlega partizana zato je njeno ljudstvo navajeno trpeti zato je njeno ljudstvo pripravljeno umreti. -Via Ofenziva Forum Rules
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Jan 2010, 05:46 Ideology: Marxism-Leninism Party Member 21 May 2010, 21:26
I'm kind if curious on your views as a national bolshevik
"Those who do not move, do not notice their chains." - Rosa Luxemburg Long Live The Bolivarian Revolution! RIP Muamar Qadafi RIP Hugo Chavez 21 May 2010, 21:38
i'm a bit of that old-fashioned nationalist. one could argue that i belong to a deviation of national-bolshevism as it is not officially panslavic or pan anything. i would like to see an unified slavic state in the future eurasia or communist utopia or whatever socialist system will take over. my grandfather spent 4 years in the forest fighting nazis and "non-racist" fascists "who probably didnt mean anything racist when they stated we should be killed as dogs". for someone whose country is squeezed between four hostile neighbours this kind of attitude towards fascists is alarming, especially when it comes from fellow communists. therefore siding with pan-slavic nationalism to preserve ourselves as a nation is the only feasible solution i see in the long run, especially now that we are facing not immigration but colonialisation.
Jugoslavija je bleda slika premrzlega partizana zato je njeno ljudstvo navajeno trpeti zato je njeno ljudstvo pripravljeno umreti. -Via Ofenziva Forum Rules 21 May 2010, 21:59
FOUR hostile neighbors,Moris?
That means Croatia's a hostile neighbor,too? Now,tell me,when did Croatia attack Slovenia or threatened it's sovereignty as a state? 21 May 2010, 22:09
took over istra and several villages in 46, prevents us from having access to the international water, redraws borders every now and then and moves it's forces on slovene territory without any kind of second thoughts. yeah, i'd say croatia is a hostile state.
Jugoslavija je bleda slika premrzlega partizana zato je njeno ljudstvo navajeno trpeti zato je njeno ljudstvo pripravljeno umreti. -Via Ofenziva Forum Rules 21 May 2010, 22:21
Lol.We "took over Istria"!?
It was Croatian land,with Croatian majority,and Croatian national movement since 19th century(Juraj Dobrila) Don't you frag me with this bullshit. Prove it,if there EVER was a Slovenian national movement in Istria(with the final goal of integrating Istria with Slovenia) Quote: We lost Boka Kotorska to Montenegro.And do we why about it? No. Quote: Lol.There are international rules regarding national sea borders.You might as well blame Italy for that. Quote: AVNOJ borders are definite.No Croatian(not even majority of nationalist) dreams about "Croatia with it's eastern border on Drina" anymore. So,you should stop your nationalist whining. 21 May 2010, 22:42
you prove it loz, istra was always under slovenian jurisdiction until neo-ustasha AVNOJ forked it over to you. there was no movement because the people were forced to immigrate from both istra and those villages. we dont have to blame italy for that because we have fixed border with italy but not with croatia, probably because your government wanted to make it clear that everything belongs to you. that's all fine and well if you croatians dont plan to go over drina anymore, too bad your sure want to go over kolpa and have your border with austria like tuđman planned.
stop blinding yourself already like every other croatian does. there are damn obvious problems between our countries and despite our politicians giving you a different impression us, simple folks do not believe everything is fabulously fine. do you ever even ask yourself why most of the younger slovenes prefer serbia? go answer yourself that, i'm sure it will be an interesting field trip. Jugoslavija je bleda slika premrzlega partizana zato je njeno ljudstvo navajeno trpeti zato je njeno ljudstvo pripravljeno umreti. -Via Ofenziva Forum Rules 21 May 2010, 22:48
Jesus fragging Christ.
How many Slovenians lived in Istria in 1900-1910.Ha? Check A-U pop. census and don't write shit. Quote: Lol.IT WAS NEVER UNDER SLOVENIAN JURISDICTION! It wasn't under Croatian jurisdiction too before 1945 you ignorant. Quote: Haha.You really have to be stupid to call Communist AVNOJ neo-ustasha when Serbs had the leading word there. ALSO,CROATIA LOST MORE TERRITORY BECAUSE OF AVNOJ DECISIONS THAN ANY OTHER REPUBLIC! Quote: Croatia has a fixed border with Slovenia since 1945.The same's with Serbia and Bosnia. Quote: No,i haven't heard of Croatian nationalists planning their "Great Croatia" to include Slovenian territory. Serbian and Bosnian,yes. Quote: I usually don't give a shit about nationalists whining. 21 May 2010, 23:16
such an agressive reply lolz, who made you so butthurt?
Quote: http://www.zamolcanaistra.eu/prebivalstvo.asp Quote: http://www.zamolcanaistra.eu/slike/amer ... -small.jpg Quote: and they were smart enough to not piss off croatia more otherwise yugo would collapse by 1960. Quote: orly? then why all of those border disputes? sure, for croatia there's fixed border, others just dont know about it yet you still have to fix border at danube with serbia or somewhere. Quote: tuđman was talking about access to austria, go check it yourself. there aint much more to include, you already stole everything important. Quote: then i guess we're all nationalists who whine all the time. rich opinion mate. Jugoslavija je bleda slika premrzlega partizana zato je njeno ljudstvo navajeno trpeti zato je njeno ljudstvo pripravljeno umreti. -Via Ofenziva Forum Rules 
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 12 May 2010, 07:43 Ideology: Other Leftist Politburo 22 May 2010, 00:23
I clicked on this thread expecting a discussion on National Bolsheviks, as I'm not too familiar with them, except that their use of symbols and imagery, as well as some of their language are a bit... controversial, to say the least (though I'm sure that what we see of the National Bolsheviks is not a full representation of the entire movement). Well, I guess all this arguing is fine, too, as I'm not too familiar with the history of the region in question, either, and I'm at least learning a bit. If anything, seeing you two argue with each other just further reinforces my own personal view that the collapse of Yugoslavia was, contrary to what the Western nations would like to present it as, a tragic event in human history.
“Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals” - Mark Twain
22 May 2010, 00:43
Quote: i provided links above you can read about their theory and beliefs. also note the banner they have next to their flag. there's no hitler of mussolini like most of the people expect, but there are lenin, stalin, che and there are also a lot of members who respect tito and a few more who dont mind trotsky. it's quite disappointing that they had to change the flag to full black because their symbols were grossly misused. i also should thank loz here for pointing out why i believe nationalism is crucial for my country dunno why he otherwise derailed a thread with NDH if we were just a couple of hours before talking in PMs, perhaps my poor serbo-croatian pissed him off. yugoslavia is sadly a perfect example why national identities should not be surpressed unless you want them to later sprung out in some bizarre theories like in a lot of countries, especially i former yugoslavia. Jugoslavija je bleda slika premrzlega partizana zato je njeno ljudstvo navajeno trpeti zato je njeno ljudstvo pripravljeno umreti. -Via Ofenziva Forum Rules 22 May 2010, 06:07
Yo dawgs lets get back to nazbol vids.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 28 Feb 2009, 03:41 Party Member 28 May 2010, 09:24
the nbf has dumb ass videos on youtube. the worse one i've seen was the one claiming that karl marx was racist.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 28 Feb 2009, 03:41 Party Member 29 May 2010, 03:09
i can't translate those article moris. i am interested in the national bolsheviks, i haven't read much of their litterature.
29 May 2010, 03:15
http://theory.nazbol.ru/index.php?optio ... s&Itemid=2
http://theory.nazbol.ru/index.php?optio ... s&Itemid=2 these ones? if you are using google chrome it will translate you everything automatically to french if you have translation option set. alternatively you can use babelfish: http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_ur ... =Translate http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_ur ... =Translate dont ask me to translate it because my russian is very basic. Jugoslavija je bleda slika premrzlega partizana zato je njeno ljudstvo navajeno trpeti zato je njeno ljudstvo pripravljeno umreti. -Via Ofenziva Forum Rules
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 28 Feb 2009, 03:41 Party Member 29 May 2010, 08:26
i have google chrome but it only translates the title for some reason.
babelfish works, thank you.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Jan 2010, 05:46 Ideology: Marxism-Leninism Party Member 07 Jul 2010, 23:55
Their newest vid is probally the worse they added pol pot and gave Kim il-sung a hitler moustache
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