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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 02 Jan 2016, 14:43
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Komsomol
Post 01 Mar 2016, 03:24
Neither of these films were nominated because of their questionable plots. Hollywood is indeed what it deserves to be called 'racist'. Chris Rock rocks!

http://www.peoplesworld.org/progies-hon ... e-in-film/
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Mar 2016, 02:55
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Post 15 Mar 2016, 02:54
Alright, but as a tried and true follower of Mao Tse-tung Thought, I have to tell you, that alternative moralities are NOT a given in the Communist mode of thought. Under Chairman Mao, if someone was caught being gay, let alone transsexual, they were promptly taken out and shot. I am NOT suggesting that should occur now. I merely report what happened. Today in China, being of alternative sexuality is difficult. Perhaps not AS difficult, but still by no means easy.

I freely acknowledge that my own morals lean toward the classic Bolshevik puritanical type stuff.Obviously I am not recommending that others who disagree get shot, but I freely acknowledge that I am out of line with just about every leftist party in the United States.

What I have noticed, and frankly, I admit it bothers me, is that most people in this country are Communist or Socialist for mushy feel-good reasons, as opposed to the hard economics of the thing. In fact, most of them have never read Marx, Engels, Lenin, or Mao. This is of course based on my limited experience with the CPUSA.

Look, I don't want to be a killjoy. But if we are Communists, we have to BE Communists. And this mushy feel-good stuff might play well in preschools, but it won't do very well on the battleground of a revolution. As Chairman Mao told us, A revolution is NOT a dinner party. And I am not just talking about a traditional "pick up your guns and overthrow the State" type. I am talking about the kind that we most prefer in the USA and countries like it; revolution at the ballot box.

I mean look: we've got a choice of Trump or Clinton this year! The two HUGEST narcissists in the freaking world, and they are both running for President of the most powerful nation on Earth! Well, if that isn't just a pretty kettle of stinking fish! We Communists had better get our ducks in a row and stop supporting the Democratic Party so darned blindly. Now is the time for INFORMED Marxists to get their butts in gear. Read your Marx, read you Engels, your Lenin, your Mao, hell, even your Stalin. Get involved. But ultimately, get informed. Before its too late.
lev
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Komsomol
Post 15 Mar 2016, 03:58
Then shoot me! (even if I am but only 3% gay. 97% heterosexual). I still worship Chairman Mao.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Mar 2016, 02:55
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Post 15 Mar 2016, 05:56
& I have already stated that I've got no desire to shoot anyone for who they choose to sleep with. I'm only pointing out that the history of our Party in other countries has not reflected well on a liberal sexual morality. Even divorce was up & down in the Communist world. @ first marriage was treated as quite bourgeoise (sp?). Divorce was simple to get. Then Lenin realised that he was facing the full-on possible breakdown of the Russian family. Oops. Divorce laws were tightened. China had a similar experience. I have no idea WHAT Russia did w/ abortion laws. We know that under Mao, birth control & abortion were hard to get. He WANTED an increase in population. It wasn't until '79 that the One Child Policy was imposed, which is now a Two Child Policy since 1 January of this year. But A LOT of things changed, mostly for the worse, when Mao died.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 18 Apr 2010, 04:44
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Post 15 Mar 2016, 16:30
What it basically boils down to is coercion. The regime needs more soldiers, the Church needs more Crusaders, the Party needs more Comissars. Therefore, homosexuality and birth control are wrong.

Meanwhile, Malthus rolls over in his grave, laughing.
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Post 17 Mar 2016, 01:20
Chairman Mao 2? lol alright.

ChairmanMaoII wrote:
Alright, but as a tried and true follower of Mao Tse-tung Thought, I have to tell you, that alternative moralities are NOT a given in the Communist mode of thought.

Nothing is a given in the communist "mode of thought". Morality is a cultural and regional peculiarity, as such it [morality] offers any revolution a unique set of tasks to overcome. Socialist morality is ultimately scientific, but it is a matter of construction.

ChairmanMaoII wrote:
Under Chairman Mao, if someone was caught being gay, let alone transsexual, they were promptly taken out and shot. I am NOT suggesting that should occur now. I merely report what happened. Today in China, being of alternative sexuality is difficult. Perhaps not AS difficult, but still by no means easy.

Mao's China was less cruel than their feudal and nationalist predecessors (who tortured and shamed entire families for the crime of homosexuality). Transsexualism was attacked more as a result of the campaigns against prostitution though, versus the argument of bourgeoisie perversion that drove anti-homosexual mentality.

ChairmanMaoII wrote:
I freely acknowledge that my own morals lean toward the classic Bolshevik puritanical type stuff.

Only compared to today could the Bolsheviks be considered "puritanical". Lenin abolished almost all of the morality-crime laws, which were only reinstituted (in a massively reduced state from their Czarist incarnation) by Stalin to sweep up the remaining segments of backwards illiterate peasants during the Great War. Which of course thereby removed an important weapon in the Nazi propaganda engine, which was specifically targeted at those same illiterate peasants.

Like Mao's China, even the most conservative moralists of Stalin's Soviet Union were far to the left of the rats they overthrew in their respective revolutions.

ChairmanMaoII wrote:
Obviously I am not recommending that others who disagree get shot, but I freely acknowledge that I am out of line with just about every leftist party in the United States.

I think you are out-of-line with communists from literally 100 year ago. I don't understand this need you have to advocate bourgeoisie morality. Perhaps you could explain?

ChairmanMaoII wrote:
What I have noticed, and frankly, I admit it bothers me, is that most people in this country are Communist or Socialist for mushy feel-good reasons, as opposed to the hard economics of the thing. In fact, most of them have never read Marx, Engels, Lenin, or Mao. This is of course based on my limited experience with the CPUSA.

If people are motivated by "mushy feel-good reasons" like love for their own then I don't see what the problem is. Hard economics has nothing to do with enforcing conservative morality by the way. Quite the opposite in fact. Oppressing LGBT types is incredibly inefficient and only creates flash points of aggression.

Also your experience is with a bunch of liberals. Communist parties are different than them.

ChairmanMaoII wrote:
Look, I don't want to be a killjoy. But if we are Communists, we have to BE Communists. And this mushy feel-good stuff might play well in preschools, but it won't do very well on the battleground of a revolution. As Chairman Mao told us, A revolution is NOT a dinner party. And I am not just talking about a traditional "pick up your guns and overthrow the State" type. I am talking about the kind that we most prefer in the USA and countries like it; revolution at the ballot box.

Man if you think sentimental argumentation has no place in an American propaganda campaign you will lose every single time. Seriously.

ChairmanMaoII wrote:
I mean look: we've got a choice of Trump or Clinton this year! The two HUGEST narcissists in the freaking world, and they are both running for President of the most powerful nation on Earth! Well, if that isn't just a pretty kettle of stinking fish! We Communists had better get our ducks in a row and stop supporting the Democratic Party so darned blindly. Now is the time for INFORMED Marxists to get their butts in gear. Read your Marx, read you Engels, your Lenin, your Mao, hell, even your Stalin. Get involved. But ultimately, get informed. Before its too late.

lolololololol zero communists support the Democrats. The CPUSA are Liberals, SA are "socialist" liberals, while all the actual communists ridicule the policy of Democrat trailing.

Also you are in the wrong community to tell us to get informed. Take that nonsense to revleft with the teenage "commies/anarchists/rebels".
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Komsomol
Post 17 Mar 2016, 04:06
Dagoth, Mao used a transvestite to seduce an American spy and the transvestite succeeded. The American spy was pilloried in the press. Imagine the shame of sleeping with someone whom you thought to be female only to wake up having two balls.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Mar 2016, 02:55
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Post 17 Mar 2016, 06:03
During the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution (GPCR), which technically lasted from 1966-69, but in reality lasted until the death of Mao in 1976, being gay or alternative in any way w/ your sexuality WAS a good way to get every person who knew you shamed, & either (1), shot, if they were close enough, or (2), a complete loss of livelihood & often freedom for those not as close. It was referred to formally as "violating Great Proletarian Morality". You can read a bit about it in the book "Red Azalea". There are other books I read covering the topic also, but the titles are lost to an old man's memory after 20 yrs. As for the accusation that I advocate "bourgeois morality", & the request for explanation, allow me to answer w/ a question. Who decides what morality is "bourgeois"? Marx said nothing about homosexuality. Nor did Lenin or Stalin, although it was against the Criminal Code of the USSR @ a certain point. I have indicated prevailing attitudes under Mao. I'm out of room. (cont)
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Post 17 Mar 2016, 06:19
(cont) I'm on a Basic Phone that gives me space limitations on what I can say. Some messages must of necessity be 2 parts. So... I personally have no particular opinion about glbt etc. I simply think that who you do your business w/ is not MY business, & I would prefer you keep it that way! To be blunt, you want to bang your buddy, feel free. But I shouldn't have to know about it. You don't know what I do, I don't care to know what you do. I'm not up for shooting anybody over it. A little much, don't you think? But as for calling my attitude bourgeois, Communism is a system of economic justice. If Marx, or Lenin, or Mao had ever written about being gay, I might be inclined to agree that my views were bourgeois. But they didn't. Ergo, the subject does not fall under the category of Communist jurisprudence.
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Post 17 Mar 2016, 07:35
ChairmanMaoII wrote:
During the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution (GPCR), which technically lasted from 1966-69, but in reality lasted until the death of Mao in 1976, being gay or alternative in any way w/ your sexuality WAS a good way to get every person who knew you shamed, & either (1), shot, if they were close enough, or (2), a complete loss of livelihood & often freedom for those not as close. It was referred to formally as "violating Great Proletarian Morality

If Marx, Lenin, or Stalin never commented on such things, then exactly where did Mao suddenly come to such a conclusion? Who convinced him that homosexuals were plotting against him, or against "The People"?

If no Communist writer ever mentioned such notions, then Mao was simply giving vent to his own prejudices - prejudices which he must have absorbed from the bourgeois milieu in which he grew up.

It's a matter of common sense. What business is it of the party what two consenting adults do in bed? Criminalizing homosexuality actually hurts the socialist state in the same way that it hurts capitalist states - creating opportunity for blackmail and double agents. Beyond that, it's a total waste of tax payers' money and the state's resources.
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Post 17 Mar 2016, 11:24
I believe I more or less stated that...
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Post 17 Mar 2016, 22:37
ChairmanMaoII wrote:
I believe I more or less stated that...

Then you've just read a timely restatement that ought to set you right on the matter.

The fact is, homosexuals (like everyone else) adopt the same social patterns and behaviors as the prevailing economic epoch under which they live. If the mode is capitalist, they may well adopt some of the most crass and materialist behavior patterns, simply because it's the norm. However, there always have been plenty of gay people in the socialist cause. Under a socialist mode of production, there's no reason to think that their behavior won't adapt to meet the prevailing norm.

If Mao hadn't been such an antiquated, provincial killjoy, he could have incorporated them into his cultural revolution. Gay folks love decorating things, and also hate rioting and pillaging. Perhaps they could have served as a brake on the relentless murdering and settling of scores that prevailed during that time.
Miss Strangelove: "You feed giants laxatives so goblins can mine their poop before the gnomes get to it."
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Komsomol
Post 18 Mar 2016, 00:36
Gay people in the socialist cause have some utility. Seduce vulnerable homosexual people in the enemy's spy services. Hugh Hambleton was blackmailed into sharing Canada's most important classified secrets for having had been caught in a scandalous situation. Although the Indonesian president Sukarno when faced with the same situation challenged the Soviet Union's spy service to release the tapes only to find out that KGB was the one faced with humiliation because of Sukarno's bragging rights to the tape because Indonesians would consider them a manly conquest, Sukarno having slept with a white Russian lady.


I was faced with the same dilemma. But I was a prostitute then. So I don't care. When Philippine intelligence threatened to release the tapes of my prostitution services to a salon hairdresser, I dared them to release them subject to what I know about the incumbent President of the Philippines who is lusting for me. They did not release them.


89% of males who make fun of gays or abase them become gays themselves. One co-worker who was married with one kid turned out to be gay. Some prominent people in the workplace taped his affairs and he almost committed suicide. I saw him turn pale when I told my supervisor that he cannot control his desire for me, masturbated in front of me inside the car. I told everybody inside the workplace. He hanged himself. Another was fired for asking me what my plans were on the weekend and asked him if he can go out with me. I told my supervisor. He got fired. You see the indispensable utilities of persons who are 3% gays, ComradeGulper. (By the way, I cannot get an erection with a male. So I have to watch pornography to force myself into it).Some people have too much ego in their head. Do you know that spies get compromised because of too much ego.
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Post 26 Jan 2018, 08:33
LGBTQ is a curse, a sickening disease that needs eradicated, it is not only the cause of a dwindling society & population, but it also destroys the family unit, and homosexuality causes nasty stds, AIDS, and hiv yuck.

Thank God Putin is against homosexuality, I just wish the world would go back to the way things were, society was much better than before all of this wackadoo trans garbage came along.

A decade or two ago everyone knew being gay was a mental illness, it was also considered disgusting and immoral, sadly now you can't call homosexuality for what it is -- a mental illness or you could lose your job, your house, and even your life.

This world is full of too many Libby snowflakes. Disgusting.
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Post 26 Jan 2018, 19:48
Lenina wrote:
LGBTQ is a curse, a sickening disease that needs eradicated, it is not only the cause of a dwindling society & population, but it also destroys the family unit, and homosexuality causes nasty stds, AIDS, and hiv yuck.

That is wrong in so many ways. The main cause of a dwindling society & population is poverty and disease, not homosexuality. There are homosexual families too, the family is not at stake, nor it's the only way to organize society. Are you against divorce too? Also, heterosexuality causes STDs and AIDS too, beacuse they's SEXUALLY transmitted diseases - in any kind of sex.

Lenina wrote:
Thank God Putin is against homosexuality, I just wish the world would go back to the way things were, society was much better than before all of this wackadoo trans garbage came along.

He is not against it, nor for it. Check out russian laws, it's only forbidden to be publicised to children.
Those who you call garbage are as proletarian as anyone else. They are our comrades and what they do in bed is not our business. When the revolution comes, they'll be by our side on the barricades.

Lenina wrote:
A decade or two ago everyone knew being gay was a mental illness, it was also considered disgusting and immoral, sadly now you can't call homosexuality for what it is -- a mental illness or you could lose your job, your house, and even your life.

This world is full of too many Libby snowflakes. Disgusting.


And it can get you banned if you don't show any proof of your allegations. According to the Forum Rules:
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I'll give you a warning so far, since you're new. But READ THE FORUM RULES and abide by them, nothing else should happen.


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Post 26 Jan 2018, 20:25
You must not know Putin then... Putin was the one to ban their sick and twisted propaganda. Why? Because he actually gives a crap about his country, he don't want it to rot. All of this lgbtq filth comes from America to destabilize countries its sick. I know you're a mod and that's great but this is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

This is exactly how I feel about fags in general;

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Post 26 Jan 2018, 21:17
Let's get this clear. I'm not a mod, I'm the admin.

I'm cutting you some slack because you're new. But we don't tolerate bigotry nor homophobia. Next time, the banhammer falls.


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Post 26 Jan 2018, 21:44
Alright admin, my bad I figured you were just a mod. Anyway, I appreciate you cutting me slack, but it's best you just ban me because like I said my views will never change on this subject. Also I'm not a bigot or a homophobe, I don't hate them nor do I fear them. So I understand if you have to let the hammer fall as it's probably for the best, this site isn't really a good fit for me anyway as it's too idk cliquey?
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Post 27 Jan 2018, 05:36
You want it, You got it.

EDIT: We haven't banned anyone since Chaz left in 2013. But hey, there's always a first.


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Post 28 Jan 2018, 07:56
Lenina wrote:
Also I'm not a bigot or a homophobe, I don't hate them nor do I fear them.


Lenina wrote:
This is exactly how I feel about fags in general;

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Hmm... sounds legit.
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