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1/3 of KPRF Members are Christians

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 27 Jul 2013, 05:04
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Post 05 Nov 2013, 13:13
Interesting article from RT about the KPRF. Apparently the KPRF has many Christian members and Gennady Zyuganov has stated that the anti-Christian campaigns by the former Soviet authorities were mistakes. Of course, as a Christian, I agree with him. It is good to see the head of a major communist party reach out to Christians.

Here is a link to the article: http://rt.com/politics/communist-christ ... ganov-084/
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Post 05 Nov 2013, 18:14
And what's that supposed to prove? KKE probably has even more Christians in its ranks both with or without its front organizations but that doesn't make it a reactionary party of the CPRF type. Pretty much everyone nowadays agrees that religion is a personal thing and that there's no need for "out-Bismarcking Bismarck in regards to religion" as it was done in the USSR in the early days.
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Post 05 Nov 2013, 18:28
KPRF...major communist party? It's neither relevant nor communist.
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Post 05 Nov 2013, 19:32
It's not communist, but it's the second biggest party in Russia. It is relevant, much more that leftists parties there.


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Post 05 Nov 2013, 19:35
The tiniest trot sect is more relevant than that useless band of soviet nostalgics and revisionists. They wouldn't even make good MLs.

Loyal opposition is never relevant. Not to us anyway.

Someone like zyuganov would be purged in a heartbeat.
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Post 05 Nov 2013, 19:52
They still represent 25% of the russian electorate. They are relevant enough to do a lot of things, if they ever will to do something. The trots can't do anything but complain at home.

And yes, Zyuganov should have been purged a long time ago.


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Post 05 Nov 2013, 19:59
Why all the hate for the KPRF? Are they really just loyal opposition for Putin? If so, how do we know this? Perhaps they cannot do anything because United Russia has a stanglehold on the Russian state.
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Post 05 Nov 2013, 20:21
Don't pretend that i f. ex. haven't posted a relevant reply quoting a Russian leftist-of-sorts author to your exactly the same question some time ago and don't pretend that there's a lack of information on why the CPRF isn't a communist party both on this site and the rest of the internet.
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Post 05 Nov 2013, 20:29
1/3 is not so bad, in comparison to what people usually say about the party.
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Post 08 Nov 2013, 05:54
Now of days Christians, and other persons of faith, may indeed become candidates for membership in the Communist Party. For example, here is the position of the Communist Party U.S.A.
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Communists are not against religion. We are against capitalism. In fact, the Party has its own Religion Commission which seeks to build positive relations with religious people and communities in the struggle to make life better for working people. Most religious people believe in justice, peace, and respectful relations among the peoples of the world, and many are motivated by their faith to work for those goals.

Membership in the Communist Party is open to all who agree with our program, regardless of religious beliefs.
-http://www.cpusa.org/faq/ And, the current leader of the Communist Refoundation Party of Italy, Paolo Ferrero, is an evangelical Christian. I myself share the view of Rosa Luxemburg, on the matter.
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And here is the answer to all the attacks of the clergy: the Social-Democracy in no way fights against religious beliefs. On the contrary, it demands complete freedom of conscience for every individual and the widest possible toleration for every faith and every opinion. But, from the moment when the priests use the pulpit as a means of political struggle against the working classes, the workers must fight against the enemies of their rights and their liberation. For he who defends the exploiters and who helps to prolong this present regime of misery, he is the mortal enemy of the proletariat, whether he be in a cassock or in the uniform of the uniform of the police
-http://www.marxists.org/archive/luxemburg/1905/misc/socialism-churches.htm
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Post 09 Nov 2013, 07:39
The original RT article missed the part that communist must smash the state. When the Orthodox Church was part of the state.. (do the math and figure out the result what happens)

Communism isn't opposed to religion per se; however, in situations such as Russia and China, the role of religion in society (mainly in the state) needed to be attacked. In most modern societies, communist have no fight with religion.
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