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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 15 May 2012, 09:43
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Post 15 May 2012, 11:01
I argue that public universities should never be funded any more than they are now because they refuse to adapt. I could be in my dorm room watching a youtube video of my lecture instead of having to drive to school every day, wasting my time and money. For classes where participation is not required, such as math and sciences, all content should be available free online, with comprehensive testing available at little to no cost. Teachers unions hate this stuff, as it means a lot less work for them, however, we need to get money out of schools.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 10 Sep 2006, 22:05
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Post 15 May 2012, 21:34
That's absurd. There isn't nearly enough money in education and acting like Internet courses are more effective is downright wrong. But no blame the teachers because they're an evil cabal conspiring to maintain their super-lucrative careers.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 06 Dec 2009, 23:17
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Post 15 May 2012, 21:43
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I could be in my dorm room watching a youtube video of my lecture instead of having to drive to school every day, wasting my time and money.

Walk or drive a bike then.

This is nonsense and would result in a further worsening of general education and hordes of ignorant and under-educated people leaving "school" (?) with worthless diplomas.
Besides, schools are also places of socialization and upbringing. You can't really get that over the Internet.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 09 May 2008, 14:59
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Post 15 May 2012, 21:49
Also, what the hell kind of math and science courses are you taking that don't require participation?

And get money out of schools? That's a laugh.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 21 Dec 2004, 23:53
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Post 16 May 2012, 04:48
Dagoth Ur wrote:
That's absurd.


Not as much as you would think. After 8 years of a govenor who kept funding at a stand still the new governor of PA is cutting funding ~50% for state related univerisities (not sure about public universities). For the universities to compete amonst each other they must put money into absurd unrelated to education expenses such as new sports venues or building renovations to attract the best students.

kwell wrote:
Teachers unions hate this stuff




That is cute you think the AFT or NEA represent all public universities.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 15 May 2012, 09:43
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Post 16 May 2012, 12:44
It's funny you three don't recognize the values of independent study. Objective subjects don't require participation.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 14 Jul 2008, 20:01
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Post 16 May 2012, 16:06
I agree that autonomous studies are worth much more than school - for some. I didn't learn most of what I know at school, but I would know even less about mathematics if I hadn't gone to school. Independent study only works with stuff you're interested in.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 09 May 2008, 14:59
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Post 16 May 2012, 17:08
And really, if you think independent study will get you farther than going to class, why are you even in college? Surely you're paying money for something you think is a waste of time.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 24 Jun 2011, 08:37
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Post 16 May 2012, 20:09
I think there's room for both types of learning. What we need though, is active, engaged, cooperative learning that encourages debate, critical thinking and asking questions.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 21 Dec 2004, 23:53
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Post 18 May 2012, 03:56
Indigo wrote:
why are you even in college? Surely you're paying money for something you think is a waste of time.


Employer's want to see the piece of paper.
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