| Is anyone else reading about the Pensioner's Revolt? |
sergei
Ancient Communist
 Joined: Fri 30 May 2003, 15:58 Posts: 1904 Location: michigan
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 Posted: Thu 10 Feb 2005, 18:38
The movement grows....
http://www.moscowtimes.ru/stories/2005/02/11/002.html
Protests Spread to Transport, defence Staff
By Anatoly Medetsky
Staff Writer
Igor Tabakov / MT
Protesters holding a variety of banners and placards in front of the White House on Thursday. The rally was one of several nationwide against hikes in gasoline prices.
Transportation and civilian defence workers on Thursday became the latest groups to take to the streets in protest, with transportation industry associations staging nationwide rallies against gasoline price hikes and poor quality gasoline, while the defence workers demonstrated in Moscow for a salary raise.
Oh dear.... it starts to get ugly when anyone that might be called a "defence worker" gets involved.... 
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Bendeguz
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 Joined: Tue 25 Jan 2005, 02:55 Posts: 1188 Location: Sydney Ideology: Fascism
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 Posted: Fri 11 Feb 2005, 04:22
You know, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was another revolution with the way things are going, but that’s probably going to take a whole lot more from Putin, but you never know. 
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“Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.” - Charles De Gaulle
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Exalt
Komsomol Joined: Sun 02 Jan 2005, 15:19 Posts: 599 Location: UK Ideology: Social Darwinism
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 Posted: Sat 12 Feb 2005, 10:39
I wish luck to everyone who is in the revolt.
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Bendeguz
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 Joined: Tue 25 Jan 2005, 02:55 Posts: 1188 Location: Sydney Ideology: Fascism
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 14:24
Me too, just wish I could help, instead of lazing around in front of a screen.
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“Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.” - Charles De Gaulle
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Kormy
Unperson Joined: Thu 25 Nov 2004, 09:44 Posts: 782 Location: Perma, Banistan
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 15:05
I wish that milisia will crack some senses on these nutjobs.
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Papergut
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 Joined: Wed 05 Mar 2003, 08:07 Posts: 867 Location: Mother Russia
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 15:21
Were you abused in your childhood, Kormy?
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ComradeDTAII
Unperson Joined: Fri 04 Feb 2005, 21:12 Posts: 1240 Location: Perma, Banistan
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 15:25
Kormy, don't you see, capitalism is not working in Russia, did you absorb all that? NOT WORKING, capitalism will die in Russia...and not you, or all the combined capitalists and fascists on the planet can do a goddamned thing about it!
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Exalt
Komsomol Joined: Sun 02 Jan 2005, 15:19 Posts: 599 Location: UK Ideology: Social Darwinism
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 16:10
These pensioners have lived under communist rule. They worked all there lives. Some may even be veterans of WW2. Now when it comes to when they retire, they have there pensions snatched away from them.
And you call us nutjobs for wanting to do something?
Get a life Kormy.
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Bendeguz
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 Joined: Tue 25 Jan 2005, 02:55 Posts: 1188 Location: Sydney Ideology: Fascism
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 16:52
 What do you mean?
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“Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.” - Charles De Gaulle
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Kormy
Unperson Joined: Thu 25 Nov 2004, 09:44 Posts: 782 Location: Perma, Banistan
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 17:06
ComradeDTAII wrote: Kormy, don't you see, capitalism is not working in Russia, did you absorb all that? NOT WORKING, capitalism will die in Russia...and not you, or all the combined capitalists and fascists on the planet can do a goddamned thing about it!
And the communism worked? 
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Kormy
Unperson Joined: Thu 25 Nov 2004, 09:44 Posts: 782 Location: Perma, Banistan
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 17:09
Exalt wrote: These pensioners have lived under communist rule. They worked all there lives. Some may even be veterans of WW2. Now when it comes to when they retire, they have there pensions snatched away from them.
And you call us nutjobs for wanting to do something?
Get a life Kormy.
There is diffrence in "doing" and rioting on the streets.
Do you honestly think that the national bolsheviks would give a flying frag about some pensions? They are on the streets just to get attention, just like neonazis in Germany who demand justice to Dresden victims.
And yes, hopely the biggest morons who throw rocks at police will get painfully death.
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ComradeDTAII
Unperson Joined: Fri 04 Feb 2005, 21:12 Posts: 1240 Location: Perma, Banistan
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 17:24
Quote: And the communism worked?
The reasons for the collapse of the USSR was totally political, capitalisms evil stem cannot root itself into Russian soil, fool.
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Kormy
Unperson Joined: Thu 25 Nov 2004, 09:44 Posts: 782 Location: Perma, Banistan
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 17:28
ComradeDTAII wrote: Quote: And the communism worked? The reasons for the collapse of the USSR was totally political, capitalisms evil stem cannot root itself into Russian soil, fool.
And looks like communism can't do either.
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ComradeDTAII
Unperson Joined: Fri 04 Feb 2005, 21:12 Posts: 1240 Location: Perma, Banistan
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 17:31
well Kormy, lets see how long before capitalism falls in Russia, I'd say they're overdue, oligarchs are evil and hurt Russians, so they won't last long
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Papergut
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 Joined: Wed 05 Mar 2003, 08:07 Posts: 867 Location: Mother Russia
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 17:34
Kormy wrote: And the communism worked? A blatant fool like you may not know it, but it DID work. Do you even know that a Russian pensioner can buy fewer products on his monthly pension than a prisoner of GULAG? I have information about rations in GULAGs, they are small but fair, and I also know how many roubles there are in an average pension and how much products cost. So I can easily back up my words. And just don't tell me that many people died in camps, I DO know the accurate numbers and I also know that Russia's population wondrously decreased by more than ten million during last thirteen years. Kormy wrote: Do you honestly think that the national bolsheviks would give a flying frag about some pensions? They are on the streets just to get attention, just like neonazis in Germany who demand justice to Dresden victims. Kormy, if you are unfamiliar with feelings of honesty and compassion then it is your problem. Other people may not be as fragging ugly as you, have you thought about that? Kormy wrote: And yes, hopely the biggest morons who throw rocks at police will get painfully death.
Without any doubts, these people have to be shot for opposing their government... How did you call yourself in that poll, Kormy? Centrist? Didn't you notice the option "Fascist" there below?
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Kormy
Unperson Joined: Thu 25 Nov 2004, 09:44 Posts: 782 Location: Perma, Banistan
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 17:37
ComradeDTAII wrote: well Kormy, lets see how long before capitalism falls in Russia, I'd say they're overdue, oligarchs are evil and hurt Russians, so they won't last long
Actually, economy in Russia is growing every year, Russia ended 2003 with its fifth straight year of growth, averaging 6.5%, GDP - real growth rate: 7.3% (2004 est).
So if would understand anything about economy, you would get it that they aren't falling back to medieval (communism) ages anytime soon.
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ComradeDTAII
Unperson Joined: Fri 04 Feb 2005, 21:12 Posts: 1240 Location: Perma, Banistan
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 17:39
yeah right Kormy, Russia isn't even an industrial nation, "medieval" time is now.
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Kormy
Unperson Joined: Thu 25 Nov 2004, 09:44 Posts: 782 Location: Perma, Banistan
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 17:42
ComradeDTAII wrote: yeah right Kormy, Russia isn't even an industrial nation, "medieval" time is now.
Not an industrial country? You really don't got clue what you are talking about?
complete range of mining and extractive industries producing coal, oil, gas, chemicals, and metals; all forms of machine building from rolling mills to high-performance aircraft and space vehicles; shipbuilding; road and rail transportation equipment; communications equipment; agricultural machinery, tractors, and construction equipment; electric power generating and transmitting equipment; medical and scientific instruments; consumer durables, textiles, foodstuffs, handicrafts, etc.
Industrial production growth rate 7% (2004 est.)
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Papergut
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 Joined: Wed 05 Mar 2003, 08:07 Posts: 867 Location: Mother Russia
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 17:44
An intelligent man would also ask himself, who gets the biggest share of GNP today and why 44% of it is made up from export of raw materials (like oil) that may end in the next few years...
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Bendeguz
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 Joined: Tue 25 Jan 2005, 02:55 Posts: 1188 Location: Sydney Ideology: Fascism
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 Posted: Sun 13 Feb 2005, 19:23
Is the Gross Domestic Product really the best indicator of how well the normal people fare? Vietnam has one of the fastest rising GDP’s in the Asia-Pacific region, but when I want there the people didn’t look particularly well off (by Western standards) materially.
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“Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.” - Charles De Gaulle
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