This is in relation to the mexica thread in Red Square.
Cata: I think you have set a very poor example by punishing Whitten and not Rk. He has clearly posted racist content on this forum which you know full well is an offense not tolerated here, with no exception.
From the forum rules:
"3. You are prohibited from transmitting through the forums and services any hateful or racially, sexually or ethnically objectionable material. (This includes Holocaust Denial) As a guide: You should not attack groups or individuals on the basis of prejudices or stereotypes but only on the basis of their demonstrated actions or beliefs. The following are the consequences for violating this rule:
1st infraction-written warning accompanied by Red Card (one week suspension)
2nd infraction-unperson (permanent suspension of your account)"
Rk is clearly entitled to a Red card in this circumstance.
I think you have abused your power in this situation and I have sent Misuzu a pm asking her to take a look at the thread and take action. If you override anything she does, I will move onto chaz or if need be Fox. Also, if you take action against me in order to prevent this, I will contact Fox through pofo.
I hope it won't come to that and that you do take the appropriate action against Rk. At the very least, he should receive a stern and public warning. This isn't personal, but I want to you to know that I'm not kidding around and how far I'm prepared to go for Rk's conduct to be looked at again.
"3. Saying "I may have done X, but he did Y!" is so incredibly childish that I won't take it seriously. Everyone is free to try to convince the administration that Y isn't okay, but either way X still isn't justified."
I'm not arguing against action being taken against whitten, although I do think a Red card is over the top. What I am taking issue with here is consistency. If whitten's infraction merits action, so should Rk's. He may still be fairly new to SE but has clocked up quite a few posts. That's means he's spent a fair bit of time here and should know most of the rules well by now.
"I missed the racial slurs in the video until they were pointed out to me. Racial slurs clearly violate our rule against racism, even if they are coming from someone being linked to in support. Yes, I make mistakes sometimes and miss things."
Maybe you did genuinely miss it, however, you have to admit that it looks very suss. In all honesty, I am not entirely convinced that you did, but rather ignored it. Whitten quite clearly pointed it out in the post you carded him for.
I'm pleased to see that action has been taken against Rk, but for the record, if I was admin, I would have done more.
Last edited by Fellow Comrade on 02 Apr 2009, 17:24, edited 5 times in total.
Okay, several things:
1. I'm not going to take any of this as an attack against me personally.
2. If anyone wants to know my reasoning in detail, PM me.
3. Saying "I may have done X, but he did Y!" is so incredibly childish that I won't take it seriously. Everyone is free to try to convince the administration that Y isn't okay, but either way X still isn't justified.
That's really all I intend to say about this. Thank you for going about this in a mature way.
Alright, an update:
I missed the racial slurs in the video until they were pointed out to me. Racial slurs clearly violate our rule against racism, even if they are coming from someone being linked to in support. Yes, I make mistakes sometimes and miss things.
For the record: I would have left Whitten with a yellow if he had not tried to argue moderation actions, after being warned in the past not to do that.
One thing worth asking is if I have a history of trying to moderate in a way that elevates people I agree with. Don't answer that, it's rhetorical. If I don't, then it's always worth giving me the benefit of doubt and shooting a PM. If people don't give me a chance to admit that I made a mistake or that I missed something and jump on abuse of power, then I don't even have a chance to show otherwise.
Guess how many people PMed me about this? None. I got no help from the general forum. Someone in the administration pointed out the racial slurs to me, and then I immediately yellowcarded. I'm thankful for the people in the administration team because I couldn't do this by myself.
Even if you or someone else aren't entirely convinced about something, I'd appreciate it if I was given a chance and I wasn't treated like a combatant. I'm absolutely not going to do everything perfectly.
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