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The definitive MiG-29 v. F-16 thread.

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Nov 2007, 08:37
Unperson
Post 13 Jun 2009, 21:12
Not too old. I've known about it for a little while. It's some basic RCS reduction techniques built into an F-15 airframe. Mainly we're talking about frontal hemisphere reduction. It's essentially a 4.5th gen design of the F-15.
banistansig1
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 23 Jan 2009, 15:02
Pioneer
Post 14 Jun 2009, 03:46
Well air combat is not really my specialty. Is there a MiG-29/ SU-27 platform that has the same capabilites or is this F-15 Silent eagle going to be the definitive MiG/ SU 4 gen killer.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Nov 2007, 08:37
Unperson
Post 14 Jun 2009, 04:34
THe Su-35BM and MiG-35 are both more or less equivalents.
banistansig1
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 23 Jan 2009, 15:02
Pioneer
Post 14 Jun 2009, 04:43
Wikipedia only mentioned the MiG-35 as being for export, is the Su-35 for export. Do all these aircraft including the f-15 Silent eagle have a modern stealth suite say compared to the F-117. Considering remenants of what was Yugoslavia the only country in the world to have shot done stealth fighters, what we would be the point to by this aircraft if a country in the middle of a bloody civil war can shoot down your untocuhable planes. I know the Stealth isnt exactly stealth, but the JNA didnt have the most advanced soviet Air defence network. One the JNA was a well trained force, the JNA had solid doctrine. But that wasnt the JNA that brought the planes down.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Nov 2007, 08:37
Unperson
Post 14 Jun 2009, 06:56
First thing is first, none of them are LO or VLO. Stealth is a vernacular term, not a military one. Second off all have limited RCS reduction and IR reduction features. Third, the F-117 was a VLO aircraft for it's time. It's RCS reduction is still more significant then any of those fighters. The Su-35BM and MiG-35 are both primarily for export.

The Yugoslavia incident is not indicative of systematic underperformance on the F-117, but of one brilliant officer on the JNA side, bad circumstances, and braindead mission planning on the part of the USAF. I would not rely on it to predict future performance.
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