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Favorite Soviet Union weapon?

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Nov 2007, 08:37
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Post 19 Dec 2008, 04:13
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I nominate the T-34/76 for outstanding performance in the 'killing nazis / production costs' - relation



Why not the '85 variant? Bigger punch for the cost.
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Post 19 Dec 2008, 13:00
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Why not the '85 variant? Bigger punch for the cost.


Point taken. Lets just say every T-34 variant. I took the 76 because it was the first to go into mass-production.
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Post 19 Dec 2008, 13:37
Mi 24 Hind. Flying fragging tank and is still the best Helicopter in the world.
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Post 19 Dec 2008, 18:25
Military Parades in Red Square. Make me want to whoop some bourgeoise ass.
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Post 19 Dec 2008, 22:02
The Hind was nasty for it's time, but if you want a flying tank, try the Frogfoot Su-25.
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Post 20 Dec 2008, 00:01
The updated one with Fly By Wire ( I believe ) as well as improved cockpit interface and controls is good. The Afghan war version is junk in modern combat.
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Post 20 Dec 2008, 01:37
I wouldn't call it junk. What it needs is not FBW, but primarily the C4SIR so that it can effectively coordinate it's actions. The Su-25SM is a good variant in that regard.
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Post 21 Dec 2008, 08:26
My favorite Russian weapon is the Russian winter, it defeated Napoleon and Hitler.
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Post 21 Dec 2008, 12:00
Pfft. Ridiculous. They both defeated themselves by not preparing the supply lines. Winter was only a cherry on top of the cake of their defeat.
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Post 21 Dec 2008, 16:18
What about Charles XII of Sweden then? The winter surly took it's toll on the Swedish army did it not?
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Post 21 Dec 2008, 18:16
Heh, he was shot on the fortress in the town I live in
. If I remember right, it was the lack of organization after his death that led to the end of the Swedish Empire.
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Post 22 Dec 2008, 01:10
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What about Charles XII of Sweden then? The winter surly took it's toll on the Swedish army did it not?


I'm not familiar with that part of Russian history. What I can say though is that surely the winter took a toll on everyone. But somehow everyone overlooks that the winter takes a toll on both sides. Realistically the winter did not make or break the war in any way. In both the Napoleonic war, and WWII it was the lack of supply lines that led to the defeat. Germans during WWI spent more then one winter in Russia. Yet somehow we don't see a spectacular defeat.
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Post 22 Dec 2008, 01:56
It was during the reign of Peter the Great. The Russians retreated until the Swedes were committed far into the country. Then he Set fire to their Prize- Moscow. The Swedes turned and retreated and the Russians routed them. The winter took a far greater toll on the Swedes than the Russians in this case.
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Post 22 Dec 2008, 04:10
I suspect it is once again a case of the logistics malaise. Given the time period, armies back then survived by pillaging the country side. And if there isn't much to pillage, if you didn't prepare properly for winter uniforms, and have no way of getting a hold of any, if you have no food for the horses, or for the men, you're kinda screwed.
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Post 22 Dec 2008, 20:57
Well that's what happened to Napoleon's army. That and the Russians destroyed all their food before retreating farther east.
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Post 11 Jan 2009, 02:36
The beast from the east!

The Hind

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Post 17 Jan 2009, 06:11
Mmm. Flying tank is good. I like the Ka 50 though.
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Post 17 Jan 2009, 10:36
Well the Ka-50 is done with. The production line for it has now been officially shut down, after having produced...... 9 helicopters. The Ka-52 is the serial production helicopter, and will be adopted by Spetznaz and Army Aviation units. 12 have been ordered for delivery over the next 3 years, as the LRIP.
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Post 18 Jan 2009, 00:06
Hey TRL, does the Mi-#/Hind line have a future?
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Post 18 Jan 2009, 00:41
The Mi-35M Hind is the latest model, and continues to enjoy huge export success, with recent contracts with Brazil, Indonesia, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia and others. The currently active Mi-24P in army aviation are being modernized to the PN standard for night fighting capability. However the Army Aviation is already receiving the replacement for the Hind, the Mi-28N. A conversion training unit of 4 of them is currently active in Torzhok, with LRIP deliveries to start this year. Overall I recall reading that 48 are to be delivered in the 2011 timeframe.

Oh and a small correction. 30 Ka-52 have been oredered by the MoD over a period of 4 years.
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