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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Nov 2007, 08:37
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Post 13 Oct 2008, 21:16
The largest Russian training exercise since the collapse of the Soviet Union. It saw multiple ICBM launches, and for the first time in their history, cruise missile launches from the Tu-95 and Tu-160 flying with a full load. The planes launched all their missiles. This is paralleled by a partial mobilization in the various military districts, including the bringing up to full strength of some reserve formations, and multiple naval exercises by the VMF in the Black Sea, Arctic Ocean, and Pacific Ocean.

So, opinions from anyone else who's heard about it. Is it a big demonstration with nothing behind it? Or a real test of large-scale coordinated military action?
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 May 2003, 23:58
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Post 13 Oct 2008, 21:48
"multiple naval exercises by the VMF in the Black Sea, Arctic Ocean, and Pacific Ocean"

PLEASE tell me that they buzzed Sarah Palin's House
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 13 Feb 2008, 15:25
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Post 13 Oct 2008, 22:22
I haven't read up on it much yet, but it seems that Belarus participated in the exercises as well.

I imagine that this is partly intended to show the West (in case it hasn't already worked it out) that Russia is back and won't be fraged with.
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Post 13 Oct 2008, 22:27
Actually the Arctic Ocean will be ice free for the first time this fall. New territory to fight for, for the capitalists. Russia seems to making large advances into the Arctic, first with planting their flag beneath the North Pole and now this military exercise.. although it is worth the laugh when conservatives flip out that Russia has long range weapons.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 30 Nov 2007, 08:37
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Post 14 Oct 2008, 01:19
Belarus did participate but on a very limited scale. The new T-90A tanks participated in a number of the exercises though whether this is their routine training or just showing off I'm not sure.

EDIT: Ok so the exercises involved 4 ICBM launches, 3 of them submarine ones, with one of them being 3000+ km above the official maximum range of the missile.
The fact that all the launches went off in such a short time with no incidents (3 SLBM launches over 2 days) is impressive on it's own.

EDIT2: And out of the blue, following the large scale exercises, Serdyukov announced a large scale reorganization of the Russian Army.

The Russian Army plans to switch from a divisional and regimental system, to a brigade system by the 2012 timeframe. In the same time period, the size of upper level officer corps is planned to be reduced by about 2.5 times, from around 21500 to 8500. Overall planned officer reductions number around 150 000. The number of generals is planned to be reduced from 1100, to 900, while the total number of lower level officers will actually increase by 10000.

This, in combination with the earlier announced professionalization of NCOs, looks like a transition to a more modern military force organization. The current officer corps is ~350 000 strong and rather top heavy, due to large cuts in actual units since the USSR's collapse, but less corresponding cuts in upper tier positions.

http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=61356&cid=24
http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=61350&cid=25
http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=61358&cid=25

The military education system currently has 65 universities/academies. Many are very small in terms of attendance. This will be replaced by 10 large univerisities,

Additionally reservists which come to annual trainings will now be paid for it.

http://vz.ru/society/2008/10/14/218876.html

So what do you guys think? Actual changes or just more showing off? Most defence minsters since the collapse of the USSR have tried "reforms" but most of those reforms were minor things like merging the PVO and VVS, or handing over command of land forces on Kamchatka to the VVS. If this goes through, it will be the first set of truly major reforms since the USSR.
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