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Pictures of the Finnish Defence Forces

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 16 Feb 2005, 02:51
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Post 28 Aug 2006, 23:19
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I thought the premise of a tank is to be unstoppable. Not worrying how easy it would be to escape from the inside of one....

a tank is an offensive weapon. it is a defeatist prospective to worry about evacuating from one...


==Tanks are also expendables, their destruction in battle is inevitable, and trained tank crews are far more valuable than the tank they are in.
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 19 Aug 2006, 17:42
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Post 28 Aug 2006, 23:35
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trained tank crews are far more valuable than the tank they are in


point taken...
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 19 Mar 2005, 20:08
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Post 03 Sep 2006, 17:55
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I like this thing. I don't know what it's called in English though.
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Post 03 Sep 2006, 18:18
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I like this thing. I don't know what it's called in English though.


Definitions:
1) Hard work.
2) Crap if it gets stuck in the snow in a snowy land.
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Post 03 Sep 2006, 18:19
I mean the vehicle...

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 28 Feb 2004, 20:50
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Post 06 Sep 2006, 14:44
[admin *edit*: Okay guys, I'll delete the last 3-4 posts because I fail to see their relevance]
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Ya Basta!
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 21 Nov 2004, 20:31
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Post 20 Dec 2007, 03:32
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Post 20 Dec 2007, 04:48
The main benefit of a larger tank isn't that it's easier to escape. Larger (heavier) MBTs usually have thicker armor, can carry more ammunition, and can have heavier and thicker armor. The easiest way to get the difference is to give a run down to the T-90 and M1A2 stat-lines.
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Post 22 Dec 2007, 10:27
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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 15 Dec 2006, 12:59
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Post 05 Jan 2008, 20:57
Some great memories from my recent year as a conscript gunner in 1st Tank Company:

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Swamped!

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Cadet Möttönen, at your service

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Major Malfunction reporting

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Gunnery training, live 120 mm rounds
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Post 03 Oct 2009, 04:07
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Finally, for old memories, members of the Finnish Navy's marines presenting arms. I had the honor of serving with them this year, and the unfortune of being discharged for medical reasons.

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 23 Jan 2009, 15:02
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Post 10 Oct 2009, 05:31
Some random points or thoughts.

The APC that no one seems to knows its name is an awesome unit. I trained with a unit in Norway that was equipped with those they are beasts. A great piece of equipment for that part of the world.
Despite wheter or not Finland has a large stock pile of muntions, and spare parts. Logistics is still going to be a nightmare. Nothing is interchangeable between Nato standard equipment and former soviet equipment. Basically Finland has to have say a armourer trained in both Nato and Soviet maintence procedures, or a specalist for say Soviet equipment and then another for Nato euipment.

I believe that Huge tank is actually a self propelled Arty gun, I could be wrong since i am only fimaliar with say the t-54 through t-80 tanks, American tanks from the m5 to the M1a2, the sTank, and various tanks from world war 2.
If i am not also mistaken that is a BMP-1 apc even if i am wrong and its a bmp-2 its still outdated and useless in a modern combat environment(just so theres no confusion the M2 bradley is also outdated). The tow system is also ancient might aswell be an rpg-7.
I am not trying to knock the Fine Military Forces of Finland, just giving some random points. I have had the honor of training with Northern European Forces and those countries where very proficent. I would assume that Finland is the same.
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Post 15 Oct 2009, 03:16
"Nobody respects a country with a poor army, but everybody respects a country with a good army. I raise my toast to the Finnish Army." J. Stalin 1948
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Post 09 Mar 2010, 03:08
MPs from my old posting in the navy. Wearing the maritime infantry's black beret as it should be.

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Fleet units from the beach.

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Storage for the gear; field exercise style.

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Defected to the U.S.S.R.: 15 Dec 2006, 12:59
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Post 09 Mar 2010, 20:28
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I believe that Huge tank is actually a self propelled Arty gun, I could be wrong since i am only fimaliar with say the t-54 through t-80 tanks, American tanks from the m5 to the M1a2, the sTank, and various tanks from world war 2.
If i am not also mistaken that is a BMP-1 apc even if i am wrong and its a bmp-2 its still outdated and useless in a modern combat environment(just so theres no confusion the M2 bradley is also outdated). The tow system is also ancient might aswell be an rpg-7.


BMP-1 and BMP-2 are obsolete compared to newer generation IFVs, but they have impressive upgrade potential for being so old pieces of equipment. That, and being reliable and numerous helps a lot, but not enough to compete with latest IFVs. They are not useless however, having obsolete infantry support vehicle is better than having no support at all. Bradley is still a good machine, even if it is as old as BMP-2.

Finnish Army fields Leopard 2A4s as MBTs. Old machines, but still upper tier crates. Their armor is obsolete compared to 21st century modifications, but finnish tank country is "knife fighting". Distances are generally much smaller than those of Mid-Europe. I think I shot twice (counting laser tag training in field) in multi-kilometer ranges.
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